EVEN MORE from the Rocky Mountain Championships 2025, PT 1

Thank you for tuning in. I'm Greg. I'm Mike. And we are the Pickleballers Next Door. We are for the Joes and not the Pros. Your courts, our court. Hey, thanks for coming back. We're here with Meredith Patrick Starr. It's her birthday. Happy birthday. Little hands on Yeah, playing five. We're playing I'm sorry, not five. Oh, she's playing open singles women's today. She did pretty well. I was watching her. She's in there. She had the moves. She had the moves. Very solid. Yeah, very solid. Didn't didn't really start going until the bronze match. That's all right. Late bloomer. Yeah, no, she did well. So why don't you tell us a little about yourself? How did you get into pickleball? Oh, I was a tennis player. And my friend told me about pickleball. And I thought it sounded really dumb. And I loved tennis players. Thanks. Yeah, we always hear it for old people. Yeah, yeah, that too. Or like, or Greg in gym class and then never play again. Mike is old. He's old. I'm not the oldest one here. Do you realize I'm the older I do? I do know it's hard to believe. We should rename the podcast. Okay, I have to tell you how old I am. Yeah. So we should we named 62. Oh my gosh. Oh no, no. Jeff needs to leave. I'm 63. You look 63. I've been rode hard and put away wet and pickleball. Yeah. So let's get back to this. Tell me how you got back and how you got into pickleball. Um, I, I played for the first time just with like friends. And I thought it was stupid. Like I really did. Like I did not like it right away. I just kept thinking the entire time. This is not anything like tennis. I don't like that. But I kept playing. And I think the reason why pickleball is really taken off is because everyone can have fun at any level. There we go. So easy game to play hard game to master. Yeah. Yeah. True. So I just started playing and realized like, Oh, I guess I could do this competitively. Yeah, you can. You did really well today. Honestly, I was watching. Yeah. And singles are it's tough. Singles is not the easy place. Yeah. Yeah. Well, up here in the altitude is just a lot different to like, just panting. Yeah. When you hit the ball to it goes out a lot too. Yeah. Yeah. It's a ball just kind of flies a little bit. Yeah. Yeah. When she gets home, it's gonna be real easy for Oh my gosh, they're gonna be so sorry. Yeah. Yeah. And where's home for you? Omaha, Nebraska. Okay, Nebraska, baby. Yes, you know, baby. Because it's an exciting place. Omaha. I've been there once. For the CW. Like kickball is like crazy there. Oh, yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Like, honestly, I started playing two years ago. And even since the time that I started playing, you can't find an open court. You really can. That's awesome. Yeah, I love it. Do you go to the college World Series every year? Not every year, but like the last few years. It's been really fun. I went to see everyone. I went in 2010. It was a lot of fun. I some of the best baseball experience I've ever been around a long time ago. What were you like 12 2010 16 I was ending my first marriage. That's cool. Congrats. Yes. Absolutely. Congrats. Yeah. Good year. Yeah, it was a good vintage. She knows somebody we know, right? Yeah, well, she does. Who is that? It's Andreas. I don't want to butcher his last name. He owns Alpha Omega pickleball. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. So do you have you played with them? Oh, let's see. No, I don't think so. I think I've only just ever seen him in passing. Okay. But we're doing this new thing. I don't know if you guys have heard of it. It's a big deal. It's called the NPL Nebraska Pro League. No, and he has a team that he's like the manager. Oh, you've heard he told us about it. Yeah. Yeah. So yeah, we're just trying to like hype it up. It's it's the first time it's happening at Midwest Midwest Pickleball Club, which is our newest pickleball place run by Matthew Barlow. And it's gonna be awesome. There are eight teams. I got drafted to the Tigers. Let's go tiger. Tiger. So what is the format? The format is okay. So it's not like an MLP. You have six team members. Six pros, I guess. And it's you get your team by a draft. And then you also have a team of six challengers that can fill in. I think if like a pro needs to be absent, or they also play to they play their own kind of league. So it all happens in the same night once a week, challengers play and then the pros play the other pro teams. And so the number one and two seed play and other teams one and two, okay, three and four play the other teams three and four, five and six play the other teams. Nice. Cool. Nice. He's a he's a hard working guy out there, though. He goes to college, promoting pickleball and doing all this. I don't know how he does his age. Like he's not. Oh, he's not old. He's like 20. Maybe that's what did he say was 17 when he came up with the pad in high school. He started. Yeah, that's amazing. One guy at least. Yeah. So give us where people can find you Instagram. Oh, yeah. Email phone number. No, I'm just kidding. Yeah. Security. Yeah. Greg is now in ending his third marriage. That wasn't meant for me. Three is my favorite number. So I'm at Mayor bear star double r on Instagram. Star was my maiden name. I know. We got a Patrick star over here. I know I begged my husband Patrick start. Come on. Not a good idea. Agreed. Like, in the long run, you're probably right. Yeah, I'm on Facebook. Patrick. Awesome. Yeah. Cool. Well, thanks for being on. We really appreciate it. Hey, welcome to the pickleball is next door. I'm Greg. I'm Mike. And I'm Chris Anna. And we are here today with Ali Ali from Sam's club Sam's club. Yeah, sir. He's providing the snacks for the players tent. Correct? Yes, sir. We're providing all the snacks and doing a discounted memberships for everybody today. Heck, yeah. And I've been sneaking over there quite a bit. Yeah. So if you're out here, and you want to get a Sam's club membership, what's the deal going on? So regular pricing is 25 is $50. Today, it's only $25 for a whole entire year. And you get two cards. So you do get the free add on on there. And then if you're an avid Sam's club, Sam's club, go go where there you go. And you guys just want to take advantage of everything we have at Sam's club. It's actually only $60 instead of 110 for the plus membership. And so you get free shipping free delivery for people that live a little bit further away. And so that way they can still experience the best of what we have to offer. I love it. Yeah, you helped me. He helped me yesterday. I'm a Sam's person now. Hey, look at me. I'm one. Yes. Awesome. Awesome. Here. I am signed up. I'm a fan. I'm buying both now. So I'll get it free. How long have you been at Sam's club? Um, I've been at Sam's for three years, believe it or not. I've been in sales my whole life. I was in the military before that. And I found a home nice. I actually found a home with Sam's club. It's the best work environment I've ever been in. I got the best management team side by side. We work together. Everyone does what they need to do like, um, to bring all the snacks here. Actually, I had to go talk to the fresh manager, because I'm the sales manager. So I had to make sure he talked to his people to get everything that you guys needed to help support everyone here. And he got it done. And we got it all here. We appreciate that. So now you know what the question next is, do you play pickleball? Um, I don't, but I'm going to start. I'm actually gonna start. I live in Greeley. So Leslie, who's up in Loveland, part of the pickler. Yeah. And Loveland. She, uh, I got her contact information, me and the wife gonna get her gonna get her. She's about to have a baby. So we're about to have our fourth one. Congratulations. Yeah. After that happens, we're gonna be avid members, man. I don't want to lose this way. I keep hearing awesome stories about everybody. Look how good we look. Yeah. We just like to eat. No, I'm sorry. Hey, that's fine. That's fine. I'm a beginner. It is an addiction. It's an addiction. Yeah, it will be. There you go. You might not see your child for a while. Oh, that's fine. We got grandparents, right? They're not going to remember. He's so young. Yeah. It doesn't matter. And I heard yesterday, fourth boy. Yeah. Yeah, we tried. Four boys. Are you going to go for the fifth? No. No? No. You don't want a basketball team. I'm like LeBron. I'm the coach and the player at the same time. Player coach. Yeah, that's me. So we already got the basketball team all set. Sweet. So what made you get out, come out here to support us? I mean, I mean, did you know somebody in pickleball? So let me tell you about that. I'm actually Thornton Sam's Club. And we were part of the Chamber of Commerce. Amber, who's the pickler Thornton. Oh, she's an awesome lady. Yeah, she's awesome. She part of the chamber for Thornton as well. And that's how I got to meet her. I would do everything grand openings. I do all that for my chamber. And so we actually won a large business of the year for the city of Thornton. And that's how I got to meet Amber. And through Amber, I met Ricky. And we all know how Ricky is. One big ball of energy. Yeah, for sure. So he, he, you know, pitch an opportunity for me. And he was like, if you could do that, you can come and set up. Help us out. We help you out. Yeah, I'm here, man. And also I do whatever I can for the community. Have you been able to go watch any of the games? Yeah, yeah, I have actually. I've been up on the gates just looking at people. Young, old, everybody, man. And they're all it's, it's about to get more intense this weekend. Yes. Friday, Saturday, Sunday is going to get way more intense. You're going to see some juniors. So they're going to be like 12, 15 years old that are monsters on the crew. Oh, these, these 60 and 65 year olds. We just had a lady on our podcast. You would not want to get in that court with her. I bet. I bet. I bet these people are, you guys are all about it. And they're good. They're good. You can tell when someone's good at their craft. They'll take you home. Yeah. They'll take it to the house. Yeah. Fun to watch. Not so much fun to play against. Yeah. They're good to watch. That's where I stay. I won't, I won't get back in steel and I'm a better player than when I played her before. Right. And she just was still with me. Yeah. So maybe you, you and your wife and my husband and I could, Hey, let's do it. You know, we're beginners. We have two O's at best right here. Oh, you know, you keep throwing two O's at best. I don't know about that one. I don't know. I think I know. I'm like, okay. Yeah. So I just got to keep practicing this thing. You got to keep practicing. But the thing about me is once I start something, I got to be the best at it. So, so I'm going to come back next year. I'm sure we'll do something like this. You're going to be playing in the tournament next year. So, um, it's, it's, uh, something that's said, I, it's not just me that says it, but pickleball is easy to play. Right. Hard to master. It really is. It truly is. And you feel like when you start, you are so good. I remember at the 2.0, like you were, I was, I was so good. I was, I could play anybody. Come on. Right. And then nobody will play you because you realized later on why they don't play you. Cause you're using a wooden paddle. What's the story about the wooden paddle? So if you ever come to like an open play at a park and they have that whole stack situation, wooden paddles are very, very, very old. Okay. And you don't really play well with them. Right. And a lot of the new, new, new, new players have these wooden paddles. And so when people see them in the stack, they avoid them. Yeah. Right. So that just shows, you know, it's a wooden paddle. Oh, you can tell. I'll show you one day. Yeah. You can. Yeah. You can tell. I'll show you. They're actually will hurt you. They'll actually hurt your wrist and give you tennis elbow really fast. Yeah. They're like, they're closer to a pound than eight ounces. So the paddles usually run right in the neighborhood of like just below eight ounces to like eight and a half ounces. And these are probably closer to a pound. So what, what is the sport that you play that you love now? It says basketball. Yeah. I'm a big basketball fan. I grew up playing football, but I'm a huge basketball fan. Diehard Laker fan born and raised in California. What part? Uh, so we were in Riverside, moved up around a lot. Dad was a truck driver, military. And, uh, so he was at a March air force base. Um, no, no, no. He was actually a Marine. Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah. So I don't, I grew up in SoCo. I was too, I was too young to know where he was, you know? But, um, when he started truck driving everything, we just kept moving back to California. So it was Riverside, uh, Rancho Cucamonga. And then I finished off in, uh, Bakersfield. If you ever heard of it. Oh yeah. Oh man. Yeah. So hot. I was just there. Really? Yeah. Oh, that's awesome, man. I just played, I played in Fresno. My niece graduated from Clovis high school. Okay. I think you can catch them. We played them. I did. And I grew up, uh, I grew up probably an hour West of Riverside. Okay. That's awesome. I think in Bakersfield you could catch on fire if you stood too long outside. No, your shoes will melt to the ground. They're throwing eggs, everything. So give us a shout out to your store and who, or anybody you'd like to say thanks or hello or anything too. All right. Uh, let's give a shout out to Sam's club floor in, uh, my fresh team over there, my management team, everyone over there. And I got a shout out my wife just in case she does hear this. You know, she wants to be a part of it. Needs to be. She's part of my support team and I wouldn't be here getting the rest I need without her with all them kids. So same. Well, we thank you so much. Oh yeah. We thank you so much for being on. Um, we're a great person. I've got some chance to spend with you and you made me a Sam's club. You did trick me. Yes, sir. I'm just kidding. It's a trick now. But once you go, yeah. 2%. You told me 2%. I'm watching my 2% come back. He saw Mike walking by. He goes, I got him. I gotta take him. Hell yeah. We just need you over there. I love it. I love it. Thank you so much. All right, Ollie. Thanks man. Appreciate you. Welcome to the Pickleballers next door. My name is Greg. I'm Mike and I'm Chris. We are here for the Joes and not the pros. Your courts, my core. Heck yeah it is. So we're here today at the RMC with Danny. She, uh, is the regional regional director for stretch zone. Yes. And if you haven't heard of stretch zone, I'm going to tell you, you need to get there because you went there, right? I did. I did. Oh yeah. And, um, I felt great. Like I could put my palms on the floor. I can't do that now. Yeah. I come back. I do need to come back. I do need to come back, but there's some things going on, but we'll talk about that later. So Danny, why don't you tell us how you got into the stretch zone realm? Sure. Um, I've been a strength and conditioning coach for 21 years and movement specialist. And about five years ago, um, the owners of Littleton and South Glen and Parker in Colorado said, what are you doing? And I said, I don't know what do you want? And they said, will you help us run some stretch zones? And it was just South Glen at the time. And then we put our heads together and hired some great people. And now we have the three. So that's how I landed it. I was like, this product's really solid after being in the, in sports performance for 20 years. Um, I wasn't easily sold on something for the general public or for a professional athlete. And it bridges that gap. Perfect. Well, I mean, this is where we're in pickleball. Yeah. A lot of injuries. You see our warmup. Do you play pickleball? I do play pickleball. Okay. You know, our warmup, right? Hit a ball over the net. Oh, I'm warm. Let's just take off. I know. And go for it. Go for it. Let's see what happens. A lot of people do that. I know. I'm kind of sometimes like that. Are you? Yeah. Yeah. It's been fun to be out here and see, you know, the different levels, like you were saying, Greg and work with them. We have, we've had the first two days, we've had over 20 people in the tent, both days, which is great for us because they were the slower days, but at the same time, like they were consistent. Um, and my staff is all under 30 and loving it. They're having a great time. So have you ever played pickleball? I have. First time I ever played was in Scottsdale. Yeah, that's a good place. It's a good place. I was like, this is great. I could do this every day. It's definitely an addiction. I agree. It's definitely an addiction. Um, so she's, you're part of the stretch zone and there is another one called. The live well center for stretch zone. We are nationally board certified. So every one of our practitioners has to go through 50 hour course and pass their test. So they have some skin in the game. They got to think they got to learn. Um, and then they got to come and apply well, uh, on the floor as a practitioner. Um, and then we also have a method where we use a three, five and a seven. So the person on the table, regardless of, uh, post op or post game for pickleball, you're always in control of your stretch through our intensity. So three would be a light stretch for any individual. Same as five is a medium level stretch and seven is deep. And that scale alone and our communication process is typically what allows a person to feel so safe in a stretch zone along with our straps. Those are patented and that helps us isolate the process so we can work through the kinetic pattern. Easy way. Put, we work from your right shoulder to your left foot and that's how you walk and vice versa. So we tap right into everybody's movement and then that each individual gets to keep, Hey, this is where I want it. I just want fives today or, um, you know, yeah. Well, the thing is they don't want you to do that. I know they don't want you to be screaming. So I said, you know, in reality, when you look at a three, it's kind of like the stretch has started and you're noticing the work is being done. The five is wherever you're on the road, like a road trip. And seven is, Hey, we are good. We hit our destination. So we always say like, we don't want tens. We don't want you to be past that mark. Um, and the cool part is as you work with the practitioners, you get to be like, Hey, hold my seven. I really, you know, you get to learn your stretch. Um, people are in one, two or three times a week in our studios. Uh, more is not always better. Consistency is actually the trick to the product and the trick to the healing and the working for an athlete or, or for just a grandparents that want to be getting up and down on the floor with their grandkids. I went, I went right after I had my knee replacement. How long is session? 30 minutes. We have some people that will slam two together and create 60 minutes. Um, and that kind of is dependent on the schedule. I think what I love about stretch zone is very much that 30 minutes is all inclusive and you're in and you're out and you can go about your day very easily, but with a mass impact on your day. Wow. So let me ask you this. How many can you do in a day? Uh, for one person, for one of our practitioners, they're usually at 12 to 15 a day. Are they like bodybuilders? I mean, this has to be intense. Most of our team is pretty jacked. I was going to say, and they use their bodies. Yeah. Not just pulling with their arms. We're like pulling with their whole body. Yeah. Yeah. So part of you guys, then it does. Uh, you know, um, all my guys are like stoked. They're like, yes, I don't, I don't have to lift as much. And my girls are like, I need to do more cardio. It's a, it is an absolutely amazing feeling when you leave. Yeah. I need to try it. I've never done it. You have an instant sensation when you hop off that table, there's just a new posture set inside of you and it's just reactivating your brain to your body response. Um, I get stretched each week and I hop off the table and I know all this stuff and I'm like, dang it, this just works. This is, and it's so fun to see someone like Greg post-op, he came in and worked with us. But, um, like we've had a guy that had a stroke and he came in on a walker and about 12 weeks later he was not using a walker or a cane. That's amazing. Um, so we have just so many walks of life that come in looking for the next best thing for them. And it's pretty, I would say, you know, my staff, I often hear them say, I do this because it helps people. And it's the truth. How many times a week or days would you need to come? I mean, what's optimal? Yeah. So we do a first time free consultation at each studio. Those take 45 to 60 minutes. And then you're to answer your question. That's determined in that consultation. Um, they, it really depends. What are your angles? Cause we're going to take a baseline measurement of your hip range of motion and your flexion. Um, so if you've got crazy angles, you're probably a three time a weaker. Uh, but if you don't have that kind of time, you know, none is, is not good. Some is better than none. So, uh, you know, the average client is usually about 60 minutes a week, whether that be for a one stop for the 60 minute or a couple of thirties. Um, and they'll do an eight to 12 week push kind of therapeutic range, and then drop off to what maintenance looks like for them. And do you think, and this is probably a general question, but do you think older is even more important probably to do this? Do you think? I think what we help with, with the older folks. So your 60 plus region is probably their balance the most, you know, um, especially as, you know, if they're not the pickleballers that are still active and doing agile things and they, maybe they're just walking, which there's nothing wrong with that and hitting the gym, but they're not being playful. They start to notice their balance becomes an issue. So stimulating balance for the older group, but in Colorado here, I mean, every season is a play season of some kind. So we always have someone that's pretty active on the table, to be honest. Yeah. Wow. This is, it is a hundred percent worth it. If you get the chance to go, you should come down here and come down. We're doing pre-sessions here. We'll be here the next two days for sunup to sundown. It sounds like you'll be here till Sunday or we will be here till Saturday. Yeah. Saturday night. So it's about to get crazy here. I don't know if you've ever been to one of these. I think this is the biggest tournament in Colorado and it's about to get nuts. I know I'm bringing in another staff member tomorrow. So we have one talker and two stretchers. We have one waiver to sign. We walk you through that intensity scale to remind you because we want you to feel good about your process. We got to stretch some of the winners and some of the losers then and both loved it. So that's awesome. I might come get stretched tomorrow. Please do. You're overdue it sounds like. I'm very overdue. I think I need to do it. I hope so. You should. I can't even touch my toes. You're going to get an addict here. All right. Yeah. This is a good thing to be addicted to. Like pickleball, right? That's right. I have one more question. How long have you been playing pickleball? I've been playing. Yeah. So I've been playing pickleball for about four years. Like I said, I first experienced it in Scottsdale and I was just out there visiting some friends and I was like, what is this thing called pickleball? And then I, that next Christmas I was like, I'm getting this and I'm getting this and I'm getting this. So it begins. Yeah. So there you go. You know, I always tell my kids, I'm like, I need you guys to get out of high school and get going so that you can come watch me be a pickleball pro. I love it. I love it. So what would you tell our pickleball players that they to do right now? Our listeners that could help them with, that they can't get to a stretch on, if there's not one where they live, what would you suggest for us to do to help the pickleballers that are going to play pickleball before they start? Yeah. Um, my first place where I would tell people to start is to foam roll. And that's a little bit hard work on some of the bodies, but it is such a pre workout and such a pre like post cool down and highly effective for blood flow. And what's it called? Oh, foam rolling. Okay. Um, or like your massage gun could do the trick too. Um, and then your classic PE stretches for your hamstrings and your quads, because those guys are what control your knees. Um, and so I, we get a lot of knee complaints in pickleball because it's such a acceleration driven sport. And then a deceleration like basketball, it's just boom, boom, boom, boom. Um, so really taking care of the hamstrings and the quads on that foam roller and then stretching. I know everybody wants to travel with a foam roller. Sounds like a brilliant idea. I love it. My back thing. It's just, it's, it fixes me. I actually know a pickleball player that does travel with his foam roller everywhere. I think it's really the easiest supply tool to get some blood flow going and then do your stretch. Um, your warmup should be your bread and butter so that you don't have so many issues playing this sport. Um, you know, I'm 41 and I can come off a court and be like, huh, I'm super glad I have a foam roller. How long would you say somebody should stretch before? Um, you know, foam roll, maybe 10 to 15 passes each muscle group. So through the back, through the glutes, through the legs. Um, and then you're going to hit each stretch probably for about 30 seconds or till it relaxes. So if you spend your time doing that, you'll probably feel the difference in your range of motion out on the court. How about Achilles heel? That's the number one, like I see a lot of people get hurt is that's the, that's a tough one, which I, I stretch it. I kind of know how, but I mean, that is easily stretched. Like at the fence, pop your toe up there. Um, you don't want it to burn. That's the trick. You want to ease into that stretch. If you've got burning going on in that back off of that situation, hop over on the foam roller, make it soft and pliable, and then go back over and stretch it. If you're stretching and it burns, it's not ideal. So pickleballers out there, no burning, no burning. It's burning. Don't be doing it. Don't feel the burn. Don't feel the burn. If you feel the burn, you need to stop. Right. Well, Danny, thank you so much for being on. It's been great. And I absolutely love the Stretch Zone. So yeah, absolutely. You have Instagrams, emails, phone numbers. Let our people know. I will do it. You can follow us at Stretch Zone Littleton on Instagram that has an underscore in it. South Glen and Parker, same. Um, and our Facebooks are just our names here, uh, for Littleton, South Glen and Parker with the Stretch Zone attached to it. Um, and then if you're looking to get booked here in Littleton this week for a consultation, because our memberships are nationwide, um, get run by our booth. You can give us a call at 720-445-2248. And you can also, uh, Instagram us and we'll help. We'll put that down on our Instagram too. We'll connect. Well, you're awesome. And I feel better already. I just, I learned the big no burn. I'm good. I got to stop everybody. It's burning. I'm done. Mike's feeling the burn in his brain. Sorry guys. So, um, I'm going to come see you tomorrow morning. I love it before it gets really busy. I'll do your stretch for you. Definitely. We're here with Jeff Keckler at the RMC. Uh, he's played, what'd you play? Uh, men's. You play singles? Yeah. You played singles. Men's, men's 60 plus. 60 plus. Singles and men's doubles. And then 39 plus mixed. Two golds, correct? Yes, sir. Hell yeah. Two golds. So you get a free drink. A knuckle sandwich or something. Yeah, I know, right? Um, so tell us how you got into pickleball, Jeff. So I had a friend say, come play pickleball with me. That was three and a half years ago. We played one time. I went to Costco and bought some paddles with three balls in a bag, hung it up in the garage and didn't play it again until 534 days ago. And I have not stopped being addicted to the greatest game on earth. It is absolutely is a good game. It is an addiction. Absolutely. So you're a brand rep, correct? For six zero. Six zero paddles out of Australia. Nice. And we are closely monitoring the launch of a new set of product lines that will probably be gen 4.5. So it will be new technology. They've sent eight of the top podcasters to China. They had a tour for a week of the factory. Wow. And all the technology that goes into making a darn pickleball paddle. There's a lot now in the regulations and everything. So we just talked to a poor guy today since it wasn't a USA pickleball. He couldn't play with the paddle, so he just lost. You can't imagine switching paddles when you've been playing all year with the same paddle. Absolutely. So yeah, it's getting really crazy out there with the paddle. Absolutely. So for the first time on Facebook today, they had a picture of the Ruby Pro, which will be the first Ruby Pro launched six zero paddle. Is it an edgeless? It is not. Good. I would say this is a gel foam technology that has not been hit the market yet. Gel foam. So it's both. Wow. Cool. So do you have a code if people want to get a six zero? My code is Jeffrey, J-E-F-F-R-E-Y 10, and that will give you 12% off. You do the math. Jeffrey 10 for 12% off at sixzeropaddlepickleball.com. Nice. Yeah. So what are the next tournaments you have coming for you? So we're going to play in the Mesa Open. Yeah. Grand Junction. September. We have addressed the Western Slope Pickleball Club, joined it out there because of the community and the fellowship that we developed through a tragic accident with our son. Correct. That didn't turn out well, but the pickleball community really, really picked us up and we're a big support out there. That's awesome. That's really awesome. That's what's neat with the pickleball community. Great community. It really is. I mean, people have a heart here, you know? Yeah. So no Steamboat for you? I just sent a text message to my friend in Steamboat. What are we doing and when are we doing it? Heck yeah. So we'll see you at Steamboat as well. Okay. We'll see you there. Hell yeah. That's next month, right? Yeah. July 25th through the 27th in Steamboat. Everybody come on out. We're going to be there. Yeah, we'll be there. We'll be there for sure. September 12th through the 15th in Grand Junction. Mesa Open 2025. You know it. We'll be there too. Come see Jeff Keckler win his divisions, maybe. We'll see. Yeah, 90 plus is my goal. I like it. Age. I was going to say, 90 plus what? Age. If he's lucky, he'll win. Everybody tune in. This is a great podcast. Thanks, man. Thanks, Jeff, for being on. Have a great day.