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I just want to say thank you to A Sweet Sip for supporting the podcast. A Sweet Sip is a very delicious CBD drink, non-alcoholic, four great flavors. It helps me take the edge off when I'm going to play in a pickleball tournament. If you want to get some, check them out at drinkasweetsip.com. Thank you for tuning in. Thank you for tuning in. My name is Greg. I'm Mike. And I'm Christana. And we are the Pickleballers Mixed Up. So we are here today at the Parker Racquet Club talking to Colleen. She's a pro here, teaches padel, pickleball, and tennis. We're outside, it's beautiful today. I'm looking at the padel court, which I've never tried, but she said she's going to give me some tips on today. I love it. Yeah, it looks like a lot of fun. Yeah. And you're excited to be on here, aren't you? Kind of to tell us everything about what you do and the Parker Racquet Club and all that? Absolutely. So yeah, no, my name's Colleen Campbell, and I'm really excited to be at this club. And what a wonderful opportunity to be at Parker Racquet Club where it's not only open for members, but it's also open to the public. And I've always wanted to be a part of a sense of a unity community, and that's basically how this place started. The city of Parker is definitely behind the three owners of guys that started it, and it gave them full reign to open up a place where people could have a great time and learn at a rec level or whatever level it is. And I feel very blessed. I'm the only pro here that teaches not only tennis, which I've done since I was 3 years old and completed high school, was a high school champ, 4A back in Santa Barbara, California, where I grew up. Also, I played college tennis at Irvine and luckily had a scholarship. I grew up in Mission Bayhoe. Oh, wow. I was right by you. I know where you are. You used to wear a Lisa Nigel? That name sounds familiar. Oh, I thought you said Lisa Nigel. Yeah, that's what I thought. Oh, yeah, Laguna. Laguna Nigel. Yeah, Laguna Nigel. Yeah, I used to go down there, and we'd compete against some of the high schools. Great place. California was the place to live, but I think now Colorado is the place. We are the place now. Yes, it can't beat Colorado. There's great outdoor enthusiasts. If they would just think, we'd have the ocean here. I'm just kidding. Oh, I know. Just joking. So Mike and I are... We need an earthquake. Yeah. Yeah. To shake things up. Give us the ocean here. Yeah, right? It's beautiful here. I wish the roads would get a little better. I mean, oh, my gosh. There's so much traffic. Oh, yeah. There is. It kind of reminds me of California. Not even close. Well, I mean, it's getting there. Let's hope it never goes there. Yeah, not even close. We don't want homeless people. That's coming from a Colorado native, though. Yeah, yeah. So not even close. When there's eight lanes and it looks like here, that's not good. That isn't good at all. Yeah. So, well, growing up in California, it was like, as you would know, the place to live back then. Oh, yeah. Oh, my gosh. Back in the good old days in the 60s and 70s, and probably that's where I learned tennis. And then, as you know, pickleball really wasn't existing until 1967 in a backyard. Yeah. And I never heard about it. And I think it segued about 10 years ago is when it really built up. And then I found out about it. I started coaching in Hawaii and then started teaching there in Colorado Springs at the Colorado Country Club, Country Club of Colorado. But there's a guy, Scott Moore, who's a friend of mine who was the top senior in the world, and he's really big in pickleball. And he said, you know, this sport is going to segue and jumpstart. And it was a true warning, he said. And I couldn't believe how much, you know, pickleball has blown up. And I think it's great, though, because, you know, working at a racquet sports facility, you have three different types of sports you can go into and your choice depending on what kind of activity you want. And, you know, it just, pickleball's great for anybody, really. Oh, absolutely. Anybody. Family, anybody, any age. Yeah. Mother, daughter, father, son. Oh, my gosh. Well, it's amazing you can coach all those three. Oh, it's hard for my brain sometimes. Like, wow. My brain has to wrap around the strategy. It's a little challenging. I am going to ask the question, how do the tennis players accept the pickleball players? Is it one of those skiers? Oh, you knew that? Wow. You knew this was coming. Yeah, you're the pro on ball. Well, the number one complaint is the sound of the balls, and I think they're coming out with new equipment. You probably know about to soften the sound. The sound can be a little annoying, but being a coach, I've learned to adapt to not let it bother. Also, I think the learning curve on pickleball is a lot easier. I mean, tennis, to be honest, out of the three sports, is by far the most technical and hardest sport to learn. Plus, the dimensions of the court are a lot larger. So, for the tennis purists, for them, they feel like, you know, like my husband when he first knew I was getting into pickleball, he's like, Colleen, you're going to the dark side. Right? That's what a lot of people think. And guess who plays pickleball more than you, right? Him. Yeah, he likes it. Yeah, of course. He likes it. Well, and, you know, it's true. You've got to try it. You've got to like it. I really like the social. I think it's the most social. Oh, yeah. And it saves people's lives. And to look to see what people are doing, I mean, they get the crowds now. I mean, even seniors get, like, when we become seniors, which is right around the corner for me, is, you know, there's something for everybody. And I see this one gal, Beth Bellamy. She was a top pro in the world in tennis, and now she's a professional pickleball senior. And I see her on Facebook all the time. I knew her from the juniors, but, like, she's, like, playing tournaments and just as a senior. And it's like they're reliving their childhood through that and even their young adulthood. Oh, yeah. You have, like, Rafa Hewitt, Jack Sock. They've all come over from tennis. Yeah, right. Exactly. Yeah, even Andre Agassi is playing a lot with his wife. He has a paddle that's his paddle. It's his name paddle. It's crazy. Aren't there teams for seniors? Oh, yeah. Starting at 50. Yeah. Actually, we have a meeting next week with the NPL. You know, because we feel like, well, I hate to say it, that I'm getting older, but I'm getting older. You are, Mike. Don't you start it. Age is a number. Age is just a number. That sounds like, oh, my. Don't even go there. I feel like we're on a radio show for music. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right? Yeah, but we're actually speaking with the NPL and possibly doing a sponsorship with them. Yeah. Because we feel like there's, again, yeah. Sometimes I feel like we're being left out a little bit, right? I am actually trying out for the NPL next year. Oh, wow. Well, good luck. Yeah, good luck. You've got to do it. But the sad part, she told me, is that there's going to be a 60 league. So if you don't make it, I'm almost 60. There's going to be a 60. Hey, hey. Don't you do it. Don't you do it. Now, I met a guy in Steamboat who just bought into us. There's a second senior league now, not just the NPL. I forget what it's called. But he's part of an ownership group that bought a team in Roanoke, Virginia. Oh, nice. So it's going to be like the APP for the PPA. Yeah, that's great. But it's all seniors. So will they all play each other with the NPL? Probably not. What do you think? Not enough. No, it'll stay in the same league? No. No. OK. It'll change. But anyway, it's just neat that the life that you get out of this. Yeah, I love it. It changed my life. And you were in sports psychology, right? Yeah. You were saying that it saved lives. So kind of explain how you feel that way. Well, I think as human beings, we're very social creatures in a way. And even the things that I'm sad, unfortunately, with this mass shooting with this kid. I feel like when people feel isolation, separated, bullied, whatever, I think when you feel like you're part of a bigger reason or cause, then you feel like you matter. And I think isolation is the number one thing for people going crazy or doing weird things. And I think as we get older, we have to create that because kids have school. If you join some kind of support group or even churches. But I think this takes it even a really good step farther in some ways where it's activity and you're using your brain and you're running around and you're learning the score. I mean, that will keep you from having dementia, right? Yeah, that will give you dementia. You'll mess that up the rest of your life. Others were one, two, three. Who served it? But it gets easy once you do it, right? You just repetitively do it. You will still mess it up the rest of your life. You will. You know, I had a guy that we played with that had a little cheater on his paddle that kept the score at one of the open plays I was on Tuesday. If I'm being honest, that sounds like a pain in the ass. Well, it did look like it. I thought you'd get confused anyways, but yeah. Yeah, like maybe that's what he needed in his brain time. Yeah, not us. The other thing I don't like on pickleball paddles is that little suction cup. Oh, yeah. Yeah, reach down and suck up. That's like the lazy version. Right. Come on. I mean, I can understand if you're 80 plus. All right. Yeah. Or if you have leg issues or knee issues. No, you're right. I think it's good if you can think of it as picking up a ball. It's what I teach my tennis players is like as a squat because even pickleball, you got to have a wider stance than even tennis. Yeah. Because the paddle is shorter. So maybe you can look at it in positive ways like, you know, when you're picking up balls or whatever is getting that, you know, because you got to have quads. Yeah. It is a lower body. You play golf. So it's great. A little bit in Hawaii. So you know when you go over to pick up your ball out of the cup after you made the putt and you just kind of bend over one leg. Right. That's how I pick up balls. Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah. You got to find a way that works, right? Yeah. I got it. I got it. I got it, right? I got a question to ask you. Sure. So when I help ladies, I coach a little bit. Right. And you know, the guys bend with their knees and the ladies bend with their backs. So how do you fix this? Oh, yeah. Have you ever noticed that? No, no. I love to pay attention. I don't like to bend. All ladies that I coach, I coach at the Hilton in Inverness and stuff. And so I will help a lady and they bend from their hips. I feel like they're not ladies. Not ladies. Oh. Okay. I have my mindset. Oh, my gosh. I'm going to pay attention now. It's strength. Because with me, if I try to squat too much, I'll probably fall. Right? So it's a lot of strength. Yeah. Maybe it's the way the mechanics. Yeah. It might be. Men and women are designed differently. But watch. Watch. They are. I'm going to do my research now. Yeah. Well, women have wider hips. No. No. I'm just kidding. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. Yeah. I was just curious because I never really talked to you. I was thinking about you being a coach and I'm like, have you ever noticed it? Because when I'm teaching, even Chris Anna here will go out and do this stuff. Oh, even I do. You've got to bend your knees. You've got to get low this way. You've got to bend your knees. Something like you push your butt out and you kind of lean and you're- No. I would fall over is the problem. And then it would be another funny thing. Unless you're really top heavy. Yeah. It could be a situation. Right? Anyways, watch when you're training. I think you'll notice it. I will definitely observe that. You'll be like, what? Mike was crazy. He's not crazy. He's not crazy. I don't know if he is kind of crazy. I am kind of crazy. Yeah. They are. I'm not. So I joined your drill and play today and talking about community and everything. I came for the first time. I don't know anybody, right? But it's just like I wasn't nervous. It was everybody so warming. It was great. Thank you. So you feel like you can be included. You don't feel nervous. I wasn't at all. That's pickable. Yeah. That's 100%. That's pickable. Yeah. It's all about that. It's part of something bigger and it's like, I want to create a safe haven. So I always do names and I always kind of advocate, which I don't know if I did today is like, you know, get each other's numbers. Like why don't you guys get together? You can play. We have access to these courts. You don't have to be a member. I mean, we'd be great if you're a member, but you know, if you use it enough. Yeah. And other than that, it's, you know, use, use our property. I mean, it's access to everybody. Everybody was so nice. I mean, it was great. Yeah. They were. You too. I do have a quick question. So with these outdoor courts, how many people actually sneak onto them and play? Well, this place gets really busy, especially in the wintertime inside is generally packed all the time because we have not only, we have like junior tennis programs going, we have like high school juniors, we have JV high school, we have all different levels of adult programming. So you know, the tennis is, is really busy. And then the overflow, a lot of times or leagues will have leagues outside for tennis. And then the pickleball, like lately, actually another thing I'd like to promote here is a lot of businesses do team building things. Oh yeah. I think pickleball is really big on that. And I like to build that where you guys have a corporation or whatever. I mean, if you want to team up, you know, the owners here are so great. They're so adaptable and flexible with ideas. Like if I have an idea, they go, go fly with it. So I was thinking about like, it'd be great to bring some corporations, businesses, and I'm going out to any businesses out there. If you want to have your team build and have your team work with for you and I get them into pickleball, have a fun social, I can get you playing in the half an hour to 45. Yeah, you don't have to know how to play to do that. I tell people in 20 to 30 minutes, I can have you playing pickleball. There you go. And you and I together. Let's do it together. You might take it down to 15 or 10. But you honestly, that's the neat part. I mean, to take somebody on a tennis court or this Padel looks like it takes a little bit too, you know, not as much as tennis, but I'd say the hardest tier is tennis. Yeah. Then Padel and then pickleball, but pickleball just has that social probably more than any of the sports. Pickleball is easy to play. And I always say this easy to play, hard to master. Yeah, that's true. That's true. You're absolutely right. Because if you watch Emily Waters and yeah, did you say their masters, those guys, they beat everybody. Right. They're ridiculous. Like undefeated. Well, when I, when I heard, you know, the, you know, that it went up to, there's an eight there. Nobody's an eight yet. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Seven something. But I just don't even know what that looks like. I mean, I play five O's we play, you know, a little above that, but I can't imagine anybody above that. I don't even know what it's like. It's not like playing. They could probably eat their lunch when have a phone call where they're playing. I don't know. I like two O's. So I don't know. I watched, I watched them warm up at the Denver when they were here the last time they're here. And they're probably never coming back. However, I watched them warm up and all of them went left handed. That's crazy. And it was still better. It's still better than I play. That's amazing. Yeah. They're on a whole nother. Do you play left handed at all? Um, I mean, I can, you know, when I was young, back in the day, I was supposed to be a left hander because my dad was and then the teachers back then made it. So I made a point as a coach, like you let the kid decide, you know, I always ask him, what do you favor? You know, you might be writing right handed, but they might be left handed. So I would promote if you're left handed and pick a ball, Padel or tennis. I think you have an on court advantage. Oh, yeah, absolutely. I always, I always say, but jokingly, lefties die sooner than right. There's no science behind it. I just, I just like it. I just like saying it. Absolutely not. No, he's our body bagger. He's Yeah, that's his nickname. It's on his license plate. That's what he enjoys. I enjoy that. You get it. You get a bunch here. This is what you get. You guys seem like your brothers. Well, brothers from another world. Yeah. Hey, we do that here at Parker Racket Club. You're going to see us a lot more. We'll be here. We'll be here. We're going to sneak in. Is that the social thing? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So we have a big one in which I'd like to do more with pick a ball. I'd like to get the word out there more with, with the pickleball here to do. Cause like we're having a tennis social and it's from a six to eight on the same day as the pickleball social from four to six on September 6th and my husband and I're going to be a co-ed so you guys are on. We'll put them, we'll see you. Put the word out there. We have something that morning and if we do another one, I would love to do like this one with the tennis afterwards. Our owners were saying we would do, you know, brats and a beer, nice. So like, you know, like sausage and beer or whatever, you know, so they were going to do a little barbecue. Sausage. Yeah, I know. I'm Polish. So anything's sausage. I like, but anyways, they're going to have that, but I would love to do something like that in pickleball where we'd have like, you know, like a barbecue afterwards. We've done it with some of our pedal tournaments. Oh yeah. We love it. And we can bring some fun too. We, we have a, you know, we're getting a actual speed gun so we can do like serve, see how fast your serve is. Oh yeah. That'd be fun. Oh yeah. Let's do it. Do some kind of competition. We're getting some big heads of us and putting them on the court so you can see if you knock us over. Yeah. I think your big head will cover our big head. Oh, you don't even. Don't. Don't. There we go. I don't know, right? Yeah. I mean, I'm not going to say anything because my head's massive. I wasn't going to go there, but I'm going to hit your head. Yeah. Make it yellow. Here we go. Here we go. We could do a little mini me of you and Greg, right? Bigger mini me. Yeah. Right. But yeah, she, I talked to her today. I said, how'd it go? She was so happy. So it's all. You made it fun. Yes. You know, I hate to say this. There's really good coaches and then there's coaches that get a little too serious, especially when people are newer. You know, I love helping people. I'm, I don't, I don't specifically want to do coaching, but when somebody wants my help and that's a big part of our whole podcast is we came out here, we don't care if you're a 2.0, 6.0. I mean, here I am. Here she is. 0.0. 0.0. They took me in. But we don't, we're here to like. They found me on the corner. We support that. Grego, Cocho, and 2.0. That's what our name is. I don't know. I don't know. Yeah. But that's what we love to do. We like to help. That's why we're the, you know, Pigwells next door. We come out to courts. We play with everybody. Because one of the things when I started, did you ever notice this? That it was like, man, nobody wants to play with me. I want to go play. It was really good. Oh, when you're. Yeah. Yeah. When you're starting, it's like. It is tough. Yeah. I did tell him one time we were, we were playing with somebody that didn't know how. And I was like, now I kind of understand. But then everybody played with, you know, took, it was understanding with me and helped with, you know, being patient. The whole thing. It can be tough. The whole thing is, is like, you're a 4.0 and you're in open play. It's a, it's a, it's a random draw. Right. Yeah. You might get a 3.0 or a 2.0 that doesn't know what they're doing. Right. You have to reel it in. Yeah, you do. You just practice some of your shots. There you go. And if they want help, don't give it to them. But don't give it to them just because I hate that. Because you can. I hate that. I hate that. It's just a, it's just a, it's just a, it's just a, it's just a, it's just a. It's just a, it's just a, it's just a, it's just a. It's just a. It's just a. It's just a. It's just a. And if they want help. Yeah. You have to reel it in. And if they want help. Yeah. Don't give it to them. Yeah. But don't give it to them just because I hate. Because you can. I hate that. Yeah. I hate doing that. Yeah. Even when people ask for advice, I very rarely give it. But it just, it just, that's our whole thing is like reel it in. Yeah. Yeah. You don't have to be stuck with them. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The worst, the worst thing is coaching. It's just the fun out there. Yeah, it's fun. You know? Exactly. Can I just get to know those 2.0's. Yeah. Wow. I mean, well, you know. Yeah. Oh, sorry. We get off on our tangents. No, I love it. You got to have fun, you know? I know. But this is a beautiful place. I am just excited. We're outside here and it is, this is gorgeous. Yes, it's Colorado, right? Oh my God. One day it can be rainy. Yeah. Yeah. Do you guys see the double rainbow yesterday? It was like. Yeah. It was very vivid. Oh my gosh. It was very vivid. Yeah. It was nice. Yeah. I feel like I was back in Hawaii, but it was nice. Yeah. No, I was trying. I was looking for the gold, but there's no gold. You didn't find it? No, no gold. You're here today. Just a little leprechaun. You didn't find it. What island in Hawaii were you on? Yeah. So I was on a big island for 7 years and then on Maui for close to 3 years. And so we were running a, we were working on an international boarding school, my husband and I. Nice. Called Hawaii Preparatory Academy. And it was fun because it was kids from all over the world, K through 12. And I wasn't doing pickleball yet, but it was really great because you could really get into player development and tennis. Yeah. Yeah. And it was an only indoor tennis facility. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And then my husband ran the Fairmont Orchid. I don't know if you guys have been down there in Waikoloa Village, but we were running that and it was just pretty busy during those years. How fun. Hawaii is great. Oh my gosh. Yeah, I mean that was awesome. Yeah, it's huge. And pickleball. Pickleball is big. Oh, big. Like, Halua is now a friend of ours, Richard. In fact, I had another idea. My husband's like the big idea person, but he was thinking about taking groups over there because we have a lot of kids in Hawaii, and we have a lot of kids in Hawaii, and we have a lot of kids in Hawaii, and we have a lot of kids in Hawaii, and we have a lot of kids and it's definitely taking over the tennis, but it's just right on the ocean. I know when I was on Kaua'i they had zero dedicated courts. Kaua'i? Oh really? How long ago was that? Kaua'i did not have any dedicated courts and you did O'ahu. Wow. Well, Big Island is huge in it now. One of our sponsors, he just put 42, this last year, put 42 courts down there. At the convention center, right? At the convention center, dude. 42 courts. Pop-up pickleball, right? Pop-up pickleball, Scott. That's amazing. He just did 42 courts. Yeah, that's a time twister. I never tried doing that one. Did you? Try it again and say like- I can do it again. So with pickleball, you can really maximize court space. So looking at it from a business end is people utilizing the courts. You can put, as you know, two pickleball courts on a tennis court. Yeah, at least you could put four if you offset them. Yeah, maybe you can offset them a little bit and you have a little extra land on the outside. You can do that. And then, of course, the dimensions of a Padel court that we're looking at right now is smaller than- How big is that court? I usually, I did know the dimensions. I don't know exactly. Well, like a tennis court is 78 feet in length, so it is longer than this, but- It looks wider, too. It's shorter. This is shorter. Pickleball? Yeah, I don't know. I should know the exact dimensions. I'm really into that, but it is shorter. If I'm looking at the Padel court, it feels like I could just move it over on top and it would be almost as big as the pickleball court with the out-of-bounds. The out-of-bounds. Yeah, that's about right. Yeah, you're exactly right on that. Yeah, that looks about right. Yeah, yeah. It's really easier on your legs out of all the court surfaces. Our owner has kind of bad knees, but he can play Padel for a long time, and he loves it, and he's the reason behind it. To be honest, this is the first Padel facility anywhere in Colorado, and now it's starting to really springboard- Oh, yeah. ... in different areas. When I met you, we met at the Parker Farmer's Market. You were saying something about Padel is number one in, not the U.S., but in the world. The world. Yeah. Which is amazing, because if you look in South America, like we talked about, what I love is the international flavor of Padel, because we get a lot of players whenever I play in the men's shuttle. You get guys from Venezuela, Chile, Mexico. It started in Mexico, in Acapulco, in 1969, but it's really popular in Spain. Wow. Interesting. Wow. And I had never heard of it. All over Europe. I was going to say, it's huge in Europe. It's huge, and there's a lot of indoor facilities. He's been talking, I guess some from owners from Mexico, and they're thinking about covering these. Oh, God. So it might be open. That'd be nice. But I really want to make this year-round, so we don't lose the momentum that we've gained over the summer time. I was in Cancun, and I walked to a pickleball court out there. The facility was closed. I don't even think it was open. Online it said it was open, but I think it was still under construction, and they had four pickleball courts and eight Padel courts. Wow. And it was all covered, but you couldn't get into it. I was so mad. Oh, yeah. Did you break in? No. I think this is a heat stroke. No, I got heat stroke. Instead, I got heat stroke. Blocking back. Blocking back, right? Well, the whole round trip was a mile and a half each way, and it was the hottest day I was there, and I just wanted to kill myself. Oh, it's probably humid. Yeah, that's one thing, is you get a little spoiled with the dry weather, but when you go to these humid climates, and the ball actually travels slower- Oh, it's awesome. It's like a sea level. Yeah, absolutely. You have a little more time to set up with pickleball, Padel, and- Oh, wow. I didn't know that. My daughter lives in Branson, and I go play there all the time. I can hit that ball as hard as I want, but- Yeah, and it'll stay in all day long. Yeah. I thought it was because I was sweating so much from the humidity, but it's amazing. It's crazy. Yeah. It just, it's messed. And then you come back, and you can't play. It takes you like a week to get your serve back. Yeah, it does. It took me a week to get my serve back when I got back from Hawaii. Yeah. It's crazy. That is. Isn't that weird? That's crazy. Yeah. Climate. Climate and everything else. Yeah. Altitude, yeah. Everything's fast. I feel like the Olympic athletes in Colorado Springs. I feel like if you train here, you're going to be at an advantage anywhere else you go. Absolutely. That's why boxers- I would think so. That's why boxers train in Big Bear. Oh, yeah. The runners. All your runners run here. Bikes run right here. Red blood cells, yeah. Oh, yeah. So we're, hey, we're at the place. We're in it. Come on, yeah. We're in it. We're in darker Colorado. I like it, yeah. Come on down. Yeah, you got to come see Colleen and take some lessons with her. Yeah. You look gorgeous. Thank you. And the indoor part is basically it's tennis, and if you play pickleball in there, it's taped, right? Yes. Right. So what we do is we go out and we tape the lines. The reason is, is they're designated tennis courts for tournaments for tennis and also for juniors. They have actually the 60-foot court. They try to adopt it where it's actually shorter, where kids can play better because the court can look very big to a little junior. Oh, yeah. It looks big. Yeah. It's like, yeah, I see you over the next day. Yeah, right. Yeah, but it's true, though. So what they do is they do that, and they also have USTA tournaments in, so they have to keep it kind of regulated. There's a lot of rules for that. But you know what? I mean, the nice thing about this place, what I love about it is this place is always busy. The people are really nice. I meet people from all ages, and that's why I'm really glad I came back to Parker because it's very family-oriented. You don't really see any homeless. It's like, everybody, it's a lot of community in the city. Oh, yeah. But it's a lot of people. It's a lot of people. It's a lot of people. It's a lot of people. It's a lot of people. It's a lot of people. The people are really nice. I meet people from all ages, and that's why I'm really glad I came back to Parker because it's very family-oriented. You don't really see any homeless. It's like, everybody, it's a lot of community in the city that I didn't have where I used to live. Oh, yeah. Parker's great. So I think this is just a wonderful hub. And I mean, people here Great you guys are great. Oh, my God. Great, I have to talk to them. Thank you. Thank you. Thanks, thanks. Follow us. Follow us on Instagram. Yeah, really? Share. Share this whole thing with them, with your people. Oh, I will. And we're done. I'm setting a lesson up with you for Patel. I just want to try it. I have to try it. I got to come and do this. I was a racquetball player. So that's what this looks like racquetball to me. It's like better than me on that because it's been the hardest part is to how to calibrate against the wall. Oh, and racquetball is all about the walls. Yeah, you will be really good at having your pickleball background. You will have an advantage over a lot of people. Yeah. Oh, here we go. I want to try. I want to try. Seriously, me, I can get all three of you. Let's do it. Absolutely. You might have to video. Can you let 2.0s on? Oh, yeah. That's why he's going to let you on for Patel. How will we even? You're not even, you're not rated yet. So guess what? Yeah. Well, I think if you can swing a paddle like you do a pickleball. We'll be at 3.0 walking. That's right. I think I can swing the paddle. We're already going to be better than you. Oh, they give me a lot of... It's all about it is the scoring is like tennis except like it's sudden death. I don't know if you know in tennis. It's sudden death. It's sudden death. It's sudden death. It's sudden death. It's sudden death. It's sudden death. It's sudden death. Oh, yeah. Yeah. They call it the golden point. So I don't know where they got that from, but it's like sudden death. So the receiving team decides who's going to return it and then that next point decides who wins the game. But the scoring is like tennis where you got to win, you know, six games. You do play tiebreakers. You do switch sides on every odd, you know, game one, three, five, seven. The core positioning is actually to be honest opposite than pickleball. So when I do both is like when you serve, you have your partner up at the second pillar or up at the net near the net and the server is behind and the server wants to serve and volley because you have the one bounce rule. And pickleball, as you know, you have the two bounce rules. So my brain, I'm always trying to coach and teach people. It's just the court positioning. But if you were a former tennis player, it's a little more like tennis then, but I see no kitchen. No. There's no kitchen. The kitchen's in the back. Yeah. And the baseline. It's actually both. Okay. It can actually bounce beyond the baseline, but it has to bounce before it hits the wall or the cage. You guys see the cage? Yeah, I see that. That's crazy. Yeah. Yeah. And no, you know what I would recommend you guys or anybody else who listens to this podcast? What got me really hooked on this sport was watching the pros. Okay. And it's probably the most theatrical sport, even more than tennis. It is. I love watching it. They'll run outside of the cage and they'll literally run out and they'll hit the ball over the cage or they'll hit it across the net from the outside. Oh my God. I love the no looky. Yeah. Or the tweeners. Yeah. It seems to, I'm watching there's a game going to catacomb. I keep drifting off over here. It just looks like so fast, but then so slow, like, and it's bouncing off the wall. Yeah. You'll love it. I look so fun. I want to go. I want to hit a ball. All right. So you said a word or a phrase, sudden death. So what does sudden death mean to you? Means all or nothing. It means this point wins, right? Yeah. It's like, you got to go for the gold. All right. So I'm just going to throw this guy under the bus because I've been waiting for someone to bring up sudden death on this podcast so I can say this. I played with this guy and it's sudden death, but it means I feel like it's 12 more points. I was like, I don't understand. So sudden death, if you're losing, this is that it's done. Yeah. So if you're losing the point, you win, but no, not with this guy. It's like you can go up to like eight points and I'm like, this is not sudden death. And has he never watched hockey? I don't know, but I'm going to call it out right now. Leo Dule, what you think is sudden death is not sudden death. They're calling him out and I know they listen to the podcast, so you're in trouble. So this is awesome. I mean, I, we, I, I can't wait to spend more time with you. Actually. I'm going to get some coaching from you. Yeah. So just to talk about that. So let's talk about coaching. Yeah. Please do clinics. Okay. So, um, if you guys call the, again, you don't have to be a member, uh, you know, non members do play a little more, um, because the members do have little perks or they'll give out free days or whatever. So if you want to do it, um, you can call the Parker racket club and you can look online. I may do have the phone number right over here, but I think for most people, if I said it right now, I'd probably go through one ear out the other. So if you want to call the Parker racket club, you can look up, they have a schedule. I mean, currently right now I do do pickleball, you know, uh, drill and plays on Thursdays from 1230 to two, I have a lady social I'm doing every Sunday, not this Sunday because the labor day weekend from four to six indoors. Um, and then we're having some coed ones. We're having one September six, four to six, and we're going to, we're going to talk about more. Yeah, I want to bring in more coed, you know, socials and more, maybe some more clinics for beginners. She's like semi. But if you want to just call bottom line, you just call the front desk or look online more of all, and you can sign up. All you got to do is call up and they'll get your profile and they'll get you set up. We have like intros, intro clinics, Mondays, five to six. We have another one Tuesdays. Then you can join in on the mixed shuttles and it's basically like a social you play for an hour and a half and then we like, you know, switch partners. You bump up. Yeah, that's nice. Fun. What does the membership here cost? You know, that's a really good question and I should have the answer. I can run to the front desk and ask you, I think it's very affordable compared to a lot of country clubs and other clubs are racket clubs around. The owners want to make it very affordable and a feasible for people. So I think the people will be very pleased with what they charge. They try to even make it more competitive compared to other places. But I think when I saw, I think it was competitive because I was looking at him like, Oh, that's pretty good price. So yeah, I can't remember the price, but yeah, just call the, you know, or look online. I think best of all, most people are all, you know, we're all internet minded. What's the website? Just do Parker racket club. Yeah, and then he'll just come up and then you can look up and then they'll tell you all the information with, you know, the hours and how much are you here? Are you here quite a bit? Well, I'm luckily taking a little break this weekend with my husband who's a tennis pro to coach. And we're going to go to Breckenridge and it'll be fun and it'll come back, but I could be here all the time. And right now I'm trying to narrow it to six days a week, just narrowed down to six. But it could be a couple hours here and there. Luckily I live really close. And the whole thing is like, you know, I'm super close to the tailgate and seeing, actually my brother-in-law performs at the tailgate every Sunday. It's a great place. The tailgate on main street. I love music. Yeah. I just want to go there one night. I love music. You can also check them out on Instagram at Parker Racket Club. And on there, there's a link to the website. There you go. There you go. And then we're with Colleen Campbell, who does coaching, you know. This is who you want. This is who you want to coach. Yeah. I mean, you know, you want somebody with her background, somebody that, you know, she's versatile, been doing this forever. We have some common areas, you know, you're from Irvine, California. I'm from Mission Bayhouse. They didn't even know where Mission Bayhouse was. Remember? It didn't even exist. People were like, where are you from? Now, look at it. Oh, yeah. Yeah. It's expensive. I'm from Whittier. Those areas are bougie. Oh, yeah. Whittier. I used to play in a tournament in Whittier. No, Whittier is great. Yeah. Those areas you guys are from are bougie. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Well, when I lived there when I was a kid, it really wasn't. It was normal. It was normal. But now it's a little too Hollywood-ish. And I actually, I don't like the way it is now. It's actually very bougie now. Yeah. I'm not. You know what's funny? I'm more Parker. But you know what's funny is San Clemente is like the big pickleball thing down there now. And when I think about San Clemente, it was not. It was the surfers. Surfers. Yeah. It was the trussellers. Yeah. It was up there. I could never picture that being the pickleball mecca of like California. Is that where Trussell's is? Or is that the wedge? The wedge is in Newport. 56th Street. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Because I went there. Yeah. Down in Irvine. Irvine. Yeah. Well, Newport Beach Tennis Club now, it's really kind of more pickleball. Oh, yeah. And taken over. Yeah. It's taken over. They have like national tournaments. We're sorry, but this is how it works. Yeah. Pickleball. It's taken over the world. It is. Oh, my. What in the world's going to happen? It's taken over the U.S., right? Yeah. Well, mine's taken over the world. Now it's getting over the world. Yeah. Not as much as Padel, but it's getting up there. But tennis players, excepting Padel, how does that go? You know, I think, OK, this is really what I've heard from when I've taught the last 10 years with pickleball is a lot of people have saved their life. You know, they'll have shoulder injuries or they can't move as well. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And with pickleball, you don't have to serve overhand. Right. You know, rotator scapula issues or whatever with their shoulder, they can serve underhand. And that's where they quit tennis and they've gotten into pickleball. Right. Nice. They'll get the exercise. But what about Padel? Is that still... Tennis players and Padel. Yeah. Actually, the younger and even seniors, but a lot of the younger people really like Padel. I mean, I've had this guy who I got my certification course in, and he's a great guy. He's a great guy. He's a great guy. And he's a great guy. And he's a great guy. And he's a great guy. And he's a great guy. And he's a great guy. And he's a great guy. in Orlando, Florida. He was a professional tennis player. His name's Marcos de Pilar, and he's from Spain. And even Nadal, Raphael Nadal, he has that in his academy now and he has Padel in there. He was a tennis player but he really fell in love with Padel because the points are longer, and it's very theatrical. And the international flavor, tennis has it. But Padel is just, I like the way the competitiveness is with this. It's like they're very competitive but it's like a sisterhood and brotherhood. Like whenever I come, I've been really accepted by the culture. They've taken me part of their family, and what I love about the South American culture and that culture is they're very family-oriented too, and I'm all about that, so yeah. And it's great. And tonight they're gonna actually be doing a men's shuttle, which you get a lot of the higher-end players come out, so. One just got whacked. Is that 630? He got whacked with one of his partners. Yeah, see these guys, these guys are the earlier crew, and then I think it's 630 to 8. Nice. Yeah, I think you get the really strong players. I like it. This is awesome. I can't wait to do it. Beautiful. I'm coming. You're gonna, we could be best friends. Okay. Okay, got it. New BFF right here. There we are. There we are. So is there anything you want to kind of go over that we haven't gone over with you? Like yeah. Tall people? What I want to do is just, yeah, again, let the city know that this place is here. Padel, we will continue doing that, you know, through the winter. We are, you know, hoping to get some covered courts. And I would, you know, I think if we get more interest, then I can offer more programs for pickleball. And, you know, feel free to reach out with Parker Racquet Club. You can email me at colleen at parkerracquetclub.com. Nice. Colleen at racquet, you know, parkerracquetclub.com. N-C-O-L-L-E-E-N. Yeah. Double L-E-E. It's Irish. I like it. So you can do that. And if you have any questions, feel free to reach out to me and hopefully I can help you guys in any one of these sports. Well, you're a great coach. Because we're lifers, right? I like it. Here we go. Yeah. Pickleball. Pickleball. Pickleball. Pickleball. Pickleball. Pickleball. Pickleball. Pickleball. Pickleball. Pickleball. Pickleball. Pickleball. Pickleball. Well, we really appreciate you coming on. I mean, you know, I'm glad I met you. I mean, Parker actually has the greatest farmer's market, I'm going to say. Oh, it is. That's where we met. Sundays. Yeah. Sundays. Yeah. And she wasn't even going to bring us because she says, I made a friend now. Yeah. Oh, I got to plug her drink. Her drink. Oh, yeah. We always plug her drink. We're going to try to sell that here because I would like to have healthier options. I like wine, but to be able to do a wine spritzer, you feel really good. It has CBD in there. Oh, yeah. It calms you down. It feels good. You're getting all the therapeutic benefits. And I think it's a win-win. And if you're playing in a tournament here at Parker Racquet Club, it'll really just kind of take that edge off and get you ready to start. Yeah, it's calming. Yeah, because some people will drink beers, but you don't get the hangover. You don't get the lows. You get the nice. It helps with the calming. Yeah, and it seems like it keeps you on that homeostasis. You don't go sugar. It doesn't go high and low. You stay... Exactly. It's very zen. Yeah. Yeah. It takes the edge off the anxiety of your first game in a tournament. Well, the crazy part is everybody thinks that CBD is marijuana. No. No. It's not. It has nothing to do with it. So I get people all the time. Huh? That's stupid. I know. He's it. Yeah, really. I do get that. It's legal. It's legal. It is legal. Welcome to Colorado. That's where it started. Yeah. It gets a bad rap. It has a lot of benefits. It gets a bad rap. No. There's a lot more people, I mean, you know, accepting it. Yeah. Especially at the farmer's market. Oh, yeah. Us walking down the street. Yeah. And it was, like, amazing. All these, you know, lotions and therapeutic values to it. And hemp is used for, you know, materials and so on. Yeah. Yeah. Well, there's lines. We do shows with... We'll do the pickleball next to her. And there's lines waiting to get her drink. So it's crazy. Fun. Yeah. It's awesome. Yeah. Tailgate serves it. Or you can put it with whiskey. Like, you can mix it. Yeah. Or Malibu rum with that peach ring. I wonder what that is. It'd be kind of mellow but kind of happy. No. Just the thing. You're listening. Pink lemonade and vodka. Vodka. Champagne. I don't know. Pink lemonade's my favorite. Mimosas on Sunday. Yeah. Mimosas. Oh, nice. Nice. Yeah. And Tailgate's really good to us. So that's fun. So. Yeah. Go to Tailgate and get your drink. And then afterwards, you can come out and play in the pickleball social. Yeah. Ready to go. Your Sunday set. Yeah. And happy at the same time. So I have a question just because I'm staring at the court. It's really last question. What is that? How thick is that glass? You can probably run through it. It's actually tempered glass. I thought it was plexiglass. But it's tempered glass. And it's real glass. It's very thick. Very strong. So you can run into it. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I did, actually. When I first, my first, one of my first games, I was playing with the guys. Yeah. Well, I didn't know the dimensions of the court, you know, as much as I should have. In tennis, you throw a lob and you keep running back because it just keeps going. I literally flew into the glass and I twisted my ankle. And I'm like, okay, after that, I'm going to realize how far. There's glass here. Yeah. It is shorter. I see some, I see some pictures on there so that you kind of, you can see it. Mike would be a rhino. Sticker. Yeah, like a rhino. Mike would be a rhino and probably run through it. He'd go right through it. I've been through drywall. So does tempered glass actually shatter? It just shatters. It shatters but doesn't cut. It doesn't cut. It doesn't cut. It's very soft edges. Nice. Yeah. I just was curious. It's like what your windshield's made out of. Exactly. I don't run too fast. I'll never know that because I don't ever run too fast. Well, thank you so much. Thank you. I appreciate it. I'm so glad you were on here. I'm on. I'm on you, man. I'm on. I'm scheduling today. I'm scheduling today. You guys in the crowd are the witness. This guy's going to come out. I'm going to get you all out here. No, I want to do it. Yeah. I just have an issue right now. But once it gets fixed. You do have issues. That's a whole nother podcast. We know that. That's a whole nother podcast. That's a whole nother podcast. That's a whole nother podcast. That's a whole nother podcast. We need that whole psychology, sports psychology thing. This will take a couch. You'll need a couch for this. If you have all night. And all day. And you don't know the half. Well, thank you so much. Thank you. You were so much fun. Thank you. Can't wait. I mean, just to have somebody with your experience. This is awesome. I love you guys. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. It's all great. It's all great. I love you guys. Thank you. I'll be back. And I'll be back to that, the clinic that I did today. Yes. Fill and play. Thank you. I appreciate it. All right. How many 2.0 classes do they have? Well, I'm going to start doing more. They're not all 2.0, let me tell you. No, she's not. She's not. She's not. Do you know? She is not. She is my friend. All right. I know. She won't let us come again if we're too mean to her. She's getting close to a three-oh. There he is. Oh, Is she? What she needs to do is take a duper class. A couple more lessons, you're going to be right there. What she needs to do is take a duper class and actually get a rating so she can play and stuff. I do. I do need to. The only reason we're doing a duper class, they take her paddle away. So that's the only reason. I'll get mine. I'll get mine. Okay. Thank you. Can anybody donate a paddle? They just took mine. All right, guys. Thank you from the big dogs next door. Have a great night. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.