Episode Transcript
Thank you for joining in. I'm Mike. I'm Christana. We're the Pickleballers Next Door. Hello. Hi Mike. How are you doing? Good. This is Christana and this is Mike. This is Mike. I think I'm Mike sometimes. I don't know. I'm Mike. And we're with Pickleballers Next Door. And we are here. We have LaMarcus from Pro-Align Sports Chiropractor. And we met him at Pickler in Littleton. Do you remember that? It was the grand opening. We were watching him play. We were creeping on him. Amazing. He was right. Our podcast studio was right behind him. He was moving good. Mike was creeping on you. I was creeping on you. Sorry. Y'all don't even. You were creeping. So we saw him and we're like we got to do a podcast with him. He's just a really nice guy. And so here you are and this is LaMarcus. Hello. How are you doing? I'm doing good. I'm doing good. I just want to thank y'all for the kind words and everything too. Hey, that's me saying the kind words. You get that one, you got to watch. Oh, come on. Really? I'm always nice, right? She is nice. We've been talking nice and now we're being nice, Mike. Nice. So Marcus, give us a little some lowdown on your pickleball. Yes, sir. So I started actually playing pickleball. I actually fell in love with it about a year, year and a half ago. Really, to be honest with you, probably about a year ago was when I actually started playing. You've only been playing a year. You're a 4-0 plus and a year. You got to look at his build. I wish we had our cameras on. I mean, he's an athlete. We'll get in some details about some of his sport. But yeah, he's he's in very good shape. But a year. Come on. I'm four years and I look not that good. Were you an instant 4-0? I mean, come on. You were born a 4-0? Like an insta drink? What ended up happening actually was the first time I played. And I take it how I've like always done with football because I like I grew up and I wasn't like the most athletic at first. And so what ended up happening was all my friends that started playing like football at such a young age. And I started at like 14, 15 years old. And so seeing how they progress so fast and I was working so hard, so hard. And I never could get the edge on them because they had they had a little bit a lot more IQ than I did. And also they were more athletic because they had developed all the muscles. And so it's same same scenario. I ended up jumping in a pickleball. And I actually played my first game was against two girls. And so I get out there and in my head, I'm like, oh, I might take it a little easy. Like when I wasn't going to say that out loud, but I was that's how I was thinking. In your brain, you're like going, ah. Exactly. Exactly. So I get out there and I'm hitting the ball around and, you know, they get up, they get up 2-0. And I'm like, OK, I can't look like I'm like terrible. So I get out there and I started playing a little bit. This is before I knew all the rules. So you're making your own rules. Basically, yeah, I'm making up everything. And so I get out there and I start hitting the ball a lot harder and they're just at the net, just hitting it back. And I'm sitting here like, OK, um, and this is before I knew what a drop was. So I'm just I'm consistently just banging. Oh, yeah. Hard as you can. Hard as I can. And then they started moving out the way in. And so ended up the score ended up jumping from 0-2 to 0-9 really fast. And so like me and my friend that was playing and he didn't play much either. He was like, bro, we can't we can't lose, though. Exactly. I was like, we can't lose the girls. And I'm sitting here like, OK, look, we had to come up with a game plan. We call a timeout and we had Rick play. Timeout here. You got the whiteboard out. So I'm like, hey, bro, we got to figure this out. They ended up beating us 11-0. They pickled you. Yeah, they pickled us from the get go. And I was sitting there and I remember I remember getting up and telling my friend, I said, hey, bro, it's going to be the last time I lose. Like I lose 11-0. And he was like, what you mean? I said, bro, I'm going to take this high to do football. I said, I'm coming out here practicing every day. I was watching YouTube videos. I was coming. I was calling people. I was like, hey, bro, you trying to go out here to the court? I learned what a drop was like four weeks in. I said, OK, I got to I got to try to perfect this drop. It wasn't easy at all because I was so used to being such a hard hitter. That was tough. And yeah, like I said, you come from football. So your your your mindset is where's the ball? I'm going to the ball. So when you see that ball, you go hard. I'm going. So that's why that's why singles has been a better game for me. It compares to my patience level is absolutely terrible. And I know that. So that's something I have to work on. But you play well. I mean, we watch you play there for a while. We we had we were sitting right there. So you look good. Wow. I mean, but you're athletic. I mean, it does help. It helps. Oh, my gosh. It helps. I watched him do a drop and you were at the back lining. And I was like, how did he get that? He were there. I was like, yeah, like smoke was behind you. Because of your background in football, too. That has helped out tremendously. How much do you play pickleball? Do you get out there quite a bit or. So to be honest with you, I had played at one point in time. I was trying to go on tour. I had made my mind up. And I said, hey, I'm going to I'm going to try to go on tour. And it's still it's still there in my head. So I'm like, I want to go on tour. So I'm a practice almost every day. And really, it wasn't almost I was in there every day because I had originally worked at Epic Pickleball. And so it was perfect for me because I got to practice. Like I would go to work, get off work at like I'll go in at seven, get off work around like three and then practice from three to like seven. And then like I would. I appreciate you. So like Monday through Friday, that's all I do. And so on, like I still had to make time for my girlfriend and stuff like that, too. So like I tried to get her into it so I could like I said, oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Hey, let's do some pickleball. This is hanging out. Does she do it? She does it a little bit. She she enjoys it whenever she enjoys it when it's like a community based thing. Yeah. Fun. It brings friends and stuff like that. And that's I enjoy it a whole lot because of pickleball is like that. But at the same time, I have that halfway halfway. You're competitive. Yeah, I want to win. And so like I want to be like and whether whether I win or not, sometimes like I do want to win. You ever had one of those games where you played except like really, really good. Like you had an exceptional day and you played really well and you still lost. Oh, yeah. That is. I rather play terrible than then like lose a game that I played really good. Because then I try to find out every. My problem is I try to find out every bad thing. Yeah, I analyze everything. So like when I'm when I'm playing or doing anything like that, I overanalyze even while I'm playing. I'm sitting there watching because at one point I was, quote unquote, how they describe me. I was blind. Like I was. How did I was a case that I was blind? Sure. So I didn't know this. So like when I was growing up playing sports, I played baseball, football. I was actually like really better baseball player than I was any other sport. So like they hit a ball to the outfield. That's when I knew I was blind. So I was going based off of sound. So like when I would hear the ball get hit, like I could see like shadows and stuff like that because I'm like really blind. I would see the shadows and stuff like that. But I was based in everything because I thought everyone saw like me. Yeah. So I wasn't making any excuses for myself. So I was like, OK, I'm go outside. So they hit the ball. I would hear it. And I'm like, OK, that's an outfield hit. I didn't feel like when the ball would go in the air. I would see the little shallow shadow and then I would guess the trajectory of the ball. And so that's amazing. Yeah, it was kind of crazy. I don't like to get back to it. It was actually really crazy. Well, I didn't pick a ball. I play the same way. I listen from noise. So these people are playing with those new paddles that make no noise. Yes. It messes me up because I can hear when you snap that ball. I can hear how you serve it. I really listen. And maybe I'm getting older, a little bit older. Don't go there. Yes, he's the oldest. But, you know, when you I listened, I'm on the same way. If I can tell that soft hit or they're speeding up on me, you know, I really go by the sound. So it really does help. It helps out a lot. But what do you do in pickleball? Then you wait. You hear it. The same thing. So what ended up happening when I noticed people started using that new on the new silent paddle, whether it's the aisle or. Yeah. Oh, my gosh. When that when I noticed it, because I had used it at one point in time for a little bit just to see what it what it felt like. Oh, but when I noticed them using it, I look at the arm. Yeah. So when I see when I see how hard the arm swing, because like in the in the chiropractic room or like anything like that, I'm looking based off of movements. And so, say, for instance, if they swing, if their hips, you can't do anything without your hips. Oh, yeah. So if their hips turn a certain way and it turns at a select, you know, I mean, I know they're they're trying to speed it up. They their hips move before anything else, though. So when I see it speeds up and when I see the hip automatically jerk, the hand is going to fall after. It may be like point five or whatever. It's amazing. Six seconds after. But once it speeds up, I automatically know in my paddle is already ready. So like I'm already ready to go, go at it. And so the whole time I'm not even looking at the ball at first. I don't look at the ball until this comes off. I'm looking literally at their wrists and their elbow, because that tells me a good bit when they wrist flick. I'm like, OK, is there. Boom. OK, here. Boom. OK, so let's keep going. Well, and that's that's that's what the level up. So when you start to level up to four or five to five or pro Kyle Yates is really amazing with this. Like he will play you. He'll let you hit a few balls once. He knows that as humans, we are consistent of doing something. We like a favorite shot. We have our we have our move, we call it. Right. And it was funny. We were out in a steamboat and we were talking to this kid that played Kyle Yates. He's just a brand new. You got to play with Kyle Yates. He's incredible. And the kids, I just don't get it. Why did he stay back at the line? I said, because he doesn't play with the he knows how to hit the ball. He knows where to put the ball. He knows where to be on the court. He's waiting to see what your consistency is and then he's going to take advantage of that. And that's what he did. Exactly. It's a very pickleball, tennis, golf, like sports that requires so much rotational movement. And it's it's it requires finesse and it requires a lot of IQ. And a lot of people like when I first started playing, I tried to overathletic this game. Oh, yeah. And the problem is you get away with it with a game like football or basketball or something like that, where you can jump out there and like I have a friend, Kavante Turpin. He can wake up in the morning and run twenty three miles an hour like he can. He don't have to. He doesn't have to stretch. But with a game like this where you have to strategize, you can hit a ball consistently in that same spot and that guy's going to consistently hit it back. The problem is if you start to you have to how to describe you have to make them play your game. You do. You do. This is about this game. This game. It's sad. When I started, it was still dinking. It wasn't all that. A lot of more tennis players have come in, which have caused the the banging, you know, bad, bad, bad, bad, bad, you know, and they got the top spin so they can get that ball in. Yeah. And that's made it really difficult, you know. And so it's a lot harder game. So, yeah, you have to you have to be you have to be patient still. And you want them to make that mistake. You really do. It's not about you. Now, when there will be a point that you're ready to win the point. That's when you take it. But you can't try to win every point. And that's the that's the biggest downfall of not even just anybody else. That's the biggest downfall of me, too. I jump ahead of too many shots. Like I'll see a winner and I'm going for it. Like that's the that's the even though I didn't play tennis, that's the tennis in me. Like you you see a winner. You like I'm going for it. And when they and when they hit a shot back, it's like, oh, I wasn't prepared for that. And so I kind of get away with it sometimes because I'm fast and I can I can maneuver and get sure. Sure. But it puts me in such like bad. Oh, yeah. Because of the fact that like I'm used to if I hit a winner, I'm used to winning that point. Oh, yeah. You get to those higher levels and play people like Miles Hoover. You play like they're going to get that back. And you're like, oh, it's coming back twice as hard. Exactly. You're going to be surprised when it's right there back on you. You know what I mean? So, yeah, you it's a different game when you get to the upper level. And it's neat that, you know, it's no more sad. It's none of that anymore. You're just like you were saying, that's what's making you a four plus is you're watching the player. You'll see the ball when once the ball comes up. Yeah. You know what to do with it. We also watch for the return, right? If they're leaning on their right foot or they're leaning, where are you going to put the ball? Exactly. If the partner's right there, I'm not going to hit it till he hits it back at me. Exactly. I do. Well, that's what I love playing her because then I just body bag her. I'm a beginner. So I'm like, OK, well, I don't do any of that. So I got to learn that. It's like watch people and know where, you know, you know, their movement. And I know you're really good at that. I'm like, yeah, I see you move. I'm you know, if I see you leaning or you're still moving forward, guess where the ball's coming. I'm catching you where you're moving forward because I know that your eyes and hands coordination, you can't get it all together by the time you're there. You might get lucky, but 90 percent, you're going to watch the ball out. You're going to miss it or you're going to get body bagged. Which I've done. No, I haven't. Well, actually, I did body bag somebody, but I usually get body bagged. Yeah, she gets body bagged. Hey, it happens. I done got body bagged so many times. So many times. Oh, when you play at your level, they do it on purpose. Yeah. One thing as a beginner that I ended up learning really, really quickly. And it also came from football was playing like you can you can do a lot of teaching and you can learn a whole lot. But playing actually makes you a whole lot better, quicker. You may have you may not be honest with you. You're going to develop a lot of bad, a lot of bad habits. Yeah. So you have to have that halfway point where you have to be able to like want to learn at the same time. You have to play a good bit, too. So you have to take whatever you've been taught and go go and do it a whole lot. It's repetitive motion. That's that's really what it is. And like we said, though, we consistently like Kyle Yates. Notice we consistently learn what our good shots is and we consistently hammer at it. The like the better you get, though, the more you get very deceptive. And what we what we ended up on the same thing of football, a good like because I play where I receive a good receiver is a good deceiver. Oh, yeah. Yes. Yes. That's a good one. Yeah. Yeah. You able to kind of line up in a certain area on even on the pickleball court. You able to deceive them a little bit. You can scoot over a little bit to the right. They think from from the get go to automatically, oh, I got it down the line. Right. Automatically notice and hit it down the line because they consistently have shown that same shot three times in a row. Yeah. Right. Scoot over, make them feel like they won it because that little split second of them thinking they won. Nine times out of 10, they ain't running as fast as me. Yeah. So like they are not getting to that ball after you hit it. Because when when you scoot over to the right a little bit, they hit it down the line. They like, oh, I want and you to hit it back. You hit it. And you're like, yeah, you're able to kind of. Yeah. Well, that's awesome. My famous shot. I got an inside out. Oh, my inside out. You think it's coming to you and that thing is just flipping to you and you're the other guy. It's an inside out just to kind of let people know what to do. A twist and do that. You can show them your ankle and then. I mean, you basically you're taking your paddle and you're swinging in like you're going to hit it like you look like you're just getting a backhand. But I'm flipping the ball and I'm flipping it to the other player. So it looks like I'm looking at you and it goes to the other player and he's just surprised. That is a disgusting shot. I'm going to be honest with you because the problem. Disgusting. Did you hear that? The problem with it is so tough, too, because whenever you hit it, the spin. Oh, yeah. The spin like takes it on. Like and so you think it's hidden like right in the kitchen. But it hits it and it shoots out spinning so hard. And if you were able to kind of notice the shots, you were able to get to it. But even then, you almost had to hit ATP to get it back because it's going to jump out. So, wow. Yeah, right. No, that's awesome. But that's why you play well. I mean, you're an athletic. So that helps. That helps. You know, I mean, we're athletic, but we're old. Well, I don't know if I'm athletic, but, you know, I am old. But that's what's fun with pickleball, right? That's the fun part. You want to talk about you were talking about playing with those girls, right? Have you had the experience of playing with a nine or 10 year old? That's five O's. Man, you go on the court and you're like, I'm just going to help them and teach them something. And they whip you like they just creaming you. I am. I am. It's happened to me several times. Like, oh, these kids want to play. How nice, right? Oh, my gosh. Two of them come on the court. They're not cute. They're not cute anymore. Did this say adult court? I'm sorry, guys. You got to go to the other court. Yeah, you got to go to the other one. We want to spare y'all over here. Yeah, yeah. Wow. These youth that are coming up in it. Amazing, the two. They know nothing better, but to win and they're fast. I mean, it's not. It's crazy because it's almost like not. You know how when you play a bunch of sports growing up and you got so much field into a cup, their cup only is pickleball. So, like, it's all pickleball. So, like, in their head, they have their bad habits are nonexistent because they didn't come from any other background. Like they didn't know nothing. They know nothing. So they have no bad habits. It's only pickleball. So, like, when they hit a certain shot, it looks it looks so effortless. Oh, my God. It was. It's so crazy to see because it's like, hey, that looks smooth. When I swing, it's like it looks rigid. It looks smooth. I mean, you know, I mean, we're looking good. But some of us, I mean, yeah. But you know what's scary with them, though? Look where their eyes are. They're right at the net. That is a scary that ball is coming fast and hard over that net. But they're there. Yeah, it's crazy. Because even like little Caleb, Caleb gets to the kitchen and he's having fun at the kitchen. And I remember when I first played him because he's like, right. Yeah, I took it a little. I wasn't going to hit it hard because I was like, if I hit it too hard, it's pretty bad. And you would have felt really bad. Terrible. And so, like, I hit it towards him. And he is so funny because he does not mind. Oh, no. And he's a he's a talker. Yeah, he is. He is. So, like, I hit the ball towards him and he hit it back so hard. And he looks at me. He was like, got to keep those hands up. I was like, OK, now I get it. Now I get it. He's a good player. He's a really good. Yeah, he was he was really cute when we did the we did put him on the podcast there, too. He's a snack talker. Yeah. Oh, yeah. He's a hundred percent. That's what's fun, too, you know, to have that. So you have to think think about his nerves. I mean, he has to do something, right? He's playing with 40, 30, 20 year olds. I mean, he's a little kid. Yeah. So he's got to have some little smack. You got to have you got to have a little bit to him, because the thing is, I like to tell people all the time, no matter what sport you play, you can be playing pickleball, baseball, basketball, football. Confidence goes with a lot of stuff. You can win a lot of games just off of being confident. Oh, yeah. You may not even be the best player, but they won't hit that third shot because you so confident. Oh, yeah. Back. It's intimidating. Right. You got to give them the stink eye or something. Right. It's it's wild. No, seriously. It is crazy how much confidence goes with winning. It really does. It does. All right. Well, that's awesome. We can't wait. We haven't got to play with you yet. So we're going to get to hopefully today or we're going to set up some time to go up to our court. But give a little background where you come from in the sports world. I mean, you you're quite an athlete. Oh, my gosh. This guy, there's not an ounce of fat on it. And what you're doing now, like your background, why you're where you're at. Yeah. So I came like so I first started just in general. I was born in a little small town in Mississippi, grew up playing football, baseball and basketball. Basketball was by far one of my like worst sports that I played, like far as I'm I'm pretty good at it. Like as in I would like I can score a good amount of points, I can do pretty well. But in comparison to all the other sports like football was second, baseball was first. And so baseball just was one of those things. I end up going to an all star game. Seeing a guy throw ninety five at 17 years old was crazy. Wow. And so I was 16, he was 17 and I'm watching this and he was like the number three recruit recruit in the world. Like like not even just in the country, in the world. It was kind of crazy. He was from Puerto Rico. And so seeing him, I was like, oh, this is this is crazy. I said, but you know me, I'm going to jump up there and try to do it in general. Try was the key word because he was he was ridiculous. Ended up jumping fast forward. I ended up I told my mom like that. I really want to play football. Football was my passion. Like I truly enjoyed it. It was it was one of those things that I was able to. It was it was a harder sport for me. I think that's why it was. Baseball came a little bit easier. Football was a harder sport for me because all my friends were just so much better than me that I did not like it. Like I did not like the fact that they were so much like it's OK to like, in my opinion, it's OK to compete, but have a healthy competition with like with your friends. I want to see them succeed so bad. But at the same time, I want to be I want to be in that same boat where we pulling each other up. Yeah. If I end up being better than you now, I'm helping you out to get better. And we continue to pull each other up and start stepping on each other. And so that's how my mindset was in football. Ended up didn't actually start until my 11th grade year. Wow. And so ninth and 10th grade, you're played JV. Ended up starting my 11th grade year. Played defensive in play defense. I was a buck 30. Like I mean, that's amazing. But you're probably. Yeah, I was. That's what you. So it helped. It helped me out. I ended up home. I was in the state. I was ranked like five, like fifth or something like that. And if it's in, but I didn't have any weight to me. I had like one hundred and twenty tackles. It was crazy. And so senior year end up moving to cornerback and receiver. Now that's where that's where that's where I wanted. That's your build, your speed. Yeah, you look like that. Yeah, I can see that. That's where I wanted to be. And so like I ended up playing pretty good, ended up giving up one catch my entire senior season. And I was targeted sixty three times. People were throwing a ball at me, but they just couldn't. Like I had two interceptions. I had like 60 pass breakups. Like it was like no one could complete a pass. The only pass I gave up, though, was a touchdown. I was I was so upset. And you can tell people were very used to me, like not giving up a catch because the whole sideline turned on me. Like it was immediate. Like so when I came to the sideline, it was during a playoff game. We were up by like 20. And so so like I came on the sideline and everybody, you know, I'm already kind of down a little bit. Because, you know, it's my first catch I gave up and it's a touchdown. This is crazy. And so come to the sideline, everybody, you can hear the crowd like, oh, my gosh, Marcus gave up a touchdown. This isn't that you can hear. Oh, yeah. And not healthy. Yeah, it's not helping it. I'm knocking everything down a little bit. Then what made it worse was a dude from the a dude from my team. And he was like, Marcus, you got to step it up. You got to step it up. And I'm sitting here like I'm sitting here like, dang, I gave up one catch and I got to step it up. That's crazy. I was like, well, you know what? They used to see in a certain area. Well, you've always given them your everything. Exactly. So I get out there. We ended up winning the game. I ended up getting only a Division three scholarship from that. And so because I was above 30, I ended up talking to a lot of like colleges. But no one. I had a college coach come up to me. We were in the gym and they were recruiting me. It was a D1 school. Oh, I ain't gonna throw out their name or nothing, but D1 school. They came up to me and they said, oh, they looked. It was like, where is the market? And I'm standing right there. And they're like, they look at me and they say, oh, you look way bigger on film. And it turns around and talks to my friend. And I was I was a little I was a little upset about that. But I went home. I'll be honest with you. I cried a lot. Yeah, I went home. I'm 17 years old. All your heart. Yes. This is your heart. Exactly. So, like, I went home to my mom. I was like, well, I don't know what I got to do. I got to gain weight. I got to gain weight. I'm gonna eat a thousand like sandwiches. I need to. And so long story short, I ended up going to the D3 school because it was the only one that had offered me. And so I'll get their run track as well. So I play football, run track freshman year, did decent, didn't necessarily play. Sophomore year was where I like where I broke out at, though, like sophomore year, fourth game of the season. It was a guy really fast for two guy came from Florida for two guys. He was a receiver. He ends up getting into it with the coach right before the game. I'm talking about five minutes before the game. And I'm the second. I'm second in line. Yeah. And so he was like, coach comes up to me. Hey, Marcus, you're starting this game. Woo. I'm like, you're right. Let's go. I'm a lady. You're happy. He got into it with the coach. Here's your chance. Here's my chance. I get out there. First game I ever play, score four touchdowns. Woo. All right. I had one hundred and fifty yards and didn't look back. Next game I had two touchdowns. Next game I had three touchdowns. Wow. So you're adrenaline. But your adrenaline was up at that time. It was. There was nothing but you're winning. Exactly. And that's how my mindset was. Junior year come, I ended up getting injured. And I know it's a long story, but I ended up getting injured. I end up missing the whole season, end up having disherniations in my lower back. So junior year come, I'm thinking I'm like, this is this is my All-American year. This is where, you know, I had talked to a couple of teams and I'm thinking I want to the NFL. Like, you know, that's this. Yeah, this is this is it. Yeah. And so at a D3 school, it's hard to get and get in the NFL. So like I'm like, yo, I'm like one of the only guys in the whole country that's at a D3 school that's getting talked about NFL. So I'm thinking I'm like, yo, I'm going to make history. And so junior year come, I'm still working out hard all day, every day. Junior year come, I ended up getting injured. Disherniation in my lower back. And it didn't happen from playing. It happened from lifting, lifting in the weight room in the spring. Ended up talking, ended up getting injured first week. Oh, you know, a little bit of back pain. It wasn't crazy. As the weeks progressed, it got worse. Like I couldn't run, couldn't jump. Ended up going into, ended up having to go to every doctor underneath the sun. They ended up telling me like, hey, junior season is over with. I'm, you know, crying. Senior year comes. I'm like, well, I'm probably going to miss this too. So like, I'm going to just be the manager. You know, I want to support the boys. You know, I'm still upset. Sure, sure. But want to support at least, you know, because they supported me all the way through it. Senior year comes, my athletic trainer comes up to me. Her name is Macy and I appreciate her so much. She comes up to me and she was like, you know, we don't have anything else. I'm going to send you to a chiropractor. Didn't know what a chiropractor was. Go into the chiropractic office terrified because I had seen all kinds of videos. And so what I thought chiropractic was of what he was doing, he did functional rehab. He did chiropractic. He had acupuncture. He had everything in there. And so that's what I thought it was. And I originally was going to go to PT school or medical school at that point in time. He ends up telling me, hey, Marcus, you know, you'll be good in like four weeks. You'll be able to run. I look at him and say, sir, like no offense to anything you've said. I said, I've cried almost every day. I said, I'm not I'm not telling you that you can't do that. I said, but I've been to every doc and you're going to tell me something completely different than everybody else has told me. And so he was like, no, just trust me. Two weeks in. Wow. I jump off the table and I'm like, you know, I feel kind of crazy. So I didn't tell nobody three like the next week. I feel extremely good. I call coach. I'm like, coach, I can I can run like I feel like I can run. We go out there. We test my 40. Ended up going from I was usually a four six guy, which is around maybe around like 20 miles an hour. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Jumped to a four four one. Wow. And he asked me and like I'm like 22 miles an hour now. So he's asking me, he's like, yo, what did you do? And I'm like, coach, all I went to was a chiropractor. Like, I don't know. And so that guy doesn't know it. But he changed my whole outlook on how the human body works and how I could change people, change people's lives. So like I have fun with football, but this has been my ultimate dream ever since I met them. And that's why you're here doing. And that's why I'm here. That's why I'm going for a line. Yeah. He changed my whole thought process. And he he kept me playing for extra six years. But I've met so many people in the process, but he doesn't know how big of a difference. It gets me a little emotional because I truly love seeing people do well. And I've always wanted to change people's lives, but I didn't necessarily know how I was going to do it. And it was almost like I was thrown into that to be able to figure out like what I wanted to do with my life. It was a purpose that you were with him. Yeah, it was awesome. And like now with my with my business model and everything that I got going on, I love seeing people get better faster because time is of the essence. We we we we take time as as like it goes here and like here and there. Yeah. But time is so precious. It's so precious to us. And like we we may want to go pick up our kids, play with our kids like we may want to go run, jog little moments like that. We don't never think about. But that little moment, if you're going to run, you might end up meeting a kid that you able to speak to about what you did the day before. Now that kid goes out and tells their mom about it. Now their mom is inspiring. Now it's it's a it's it's like a it's like steps to it. So like you you never know what you may do. And that's why I love what I do so much, because I get people faster, like people better, faster and stronger. So they don't have to like have to need me for so long. I want them. I want them to be able to do whatever they want to do on any given day. And I get very passionate about it because I knew how I was when I was down and I was mentally going through so much playing football and I thought my life was over with. It just was it was very it was very emotional moment for me. But like it changed my life. So, yeah, I mean, it's awesome. And, you know, we just make I again, I don't want to keep saying I'm older and don't you do it. Don't I see your eyes over there. Nice. I got to watch her. Wow. But we start making excuses for these problems. Don't you notice that? I mean, you live with the problem. You live with the problem. Oh, I'm just getting older. I must have turned funny that day. Yeah. I mean, you know, somebody like, yeah, I mean, I might be we're going to be best friends. Are we doing the podcast here? No, I'm here for I need a little adjustment. Your brain probably don't work on that. I told you. I love it. I love it. But but this is incredible. And, you know, the reason we're so excited about this is, you know, right now in the world, Pickwell has more injuries than any other sport in the world. I did not know that. That is the truth. Yeah. I mean, because you get 2.0 is on there and they just they don't warm up. And, you know, you see what the warm it is when you get when you go to the court. Right. You meet your buddies there. You're like and they're already on. Right. You're running like a minute late. You don't want to hit a few balls. They do it all the time. You hit a few balls and you think that's and then you're going to take your body from zero to 100. Now, what do you think the body is crazy? Yeah. Why do you think everybody's warm up? I do. OK. Well, yeah, you. Yeah. I mean, you know, as a pro athlete, because that's what you are. You know that if you don't do that, what's going to happen? Yes. You even look at all the even with all the work you did. And now you're pressed to the limits when you're doing when you're going to the level you were going to. They are pushing you harder than you're way past your body can do this because they want to know. Is he if we take him to the pros, is he going to be able to do it? Exactly. I mean, I think that's the other. Yes, that's a very straightforward. Like, to be honest with you, that's exactly what ends up going. They pressure a body to the limit and it's and it becomes it becomes more mental than it becomes physical. I thought, wow, like you, you soon figure out how strong your mind is when you get pressed to those limits. Oh, yeah. And to be honest with you, a part of me kind of loves it. It's so it's such a weird. Oh, no. It's such a weird dynamic, but a part of me loves being able to push my body to the limits because at the end of the day, I can sit back and I do a lot of stuff on my own on purpose just so I can go back and tell patients that it's possible. Yeah. Like if a patient is like, for instance, I'm a go rock climbing just because I have a patient that does rock climbing. Like, I want to see what kind of injuries that you can get from this. I like to any time, any time a patient comes in with stuff, I'm going to go rock climbing. I like to any time, any time a patient comes in with stuff, I go and do it multiple times. Like, that's how my mind goes, too, because I want to see the limits that you push your body to. And I want to tell you that it's possible. And I want to tell you not only that it's possible just because I feel like it is. No, because I've done it. Well, like I think I think I think the better end of this is to is, you know, I know we need doctors. I know we need them. We have to have them. Right. But this medicine thing is kind of out of control a lot of times, you know, and I understand the doctor's point of view. You know, now that we've interviewed and now we talk to doctors and stuff and, you know, it's neat that we get to meet all these great people by the podcast. But the thing that happens is, is the patient doesn't always know and they don't have the money to invest in the time to help them. So let's just get rid of the pain by numbing it and then doing something else. Yes. And what I like, what you do is like we don't want to numb the pain. Let's fix the pain. Yes. You know, and you'll let them know, you know, and I'm sure there's times you have to say, listen, you're in this place that you're going to need some probably surgery or something. And that's that's a big thing. That's a humongous thing. And I think that's a I can't I can't say it's just necessary. I can't say I feel like that's a problem. Sometimes with practitioners and not even just me saying this because it's me, we tend to sometimes have a pride issue. Yeah. And so as doctors and stuff like that, we tend to have a pride issue. A lot of it is humans. We tend to have a pride. Oh, yeah. And so it naturally reflects into us being doctors, too. So whenever we had a pride issue, sometimes or sometimes like a patient would need surgery. And when they come to my office, just in general, we'll be talking. Ninety nine percent of things I can I can I can get you. That one percent is you have to put your pride to the side and be like, oh, look, OK, look, you need surgery. This is something a little bit above what I can help you with, because at the end of the day, they come in and they trust in you. They trust in you with their body. That's a huge thing. Like they're trusting you with your knowledge, with their body, with their time. You have so much other stuff outside of just being like, yo, you know, you end up paying for this. We're going to put a bandaid over now. You coming back a month later, two months later. Now it's worse. Oh, yeah. That's usually what ends up happening. Way worse. You put that bandaid on it. Yeah. Come back and it's going to come back. Yeah. So we have a pride issue when it comes down to surgery. I have, you know, sometimes I hear chiropractors say, oh, surgery is absolutely nonexistent. It's terrible. And then I hear other like like surgeons. Hey, you know, you need surgery here. You need surgery there. So it's it's it's not only like an issue with just like it's not only an issue with chiropractors, PTs, surgeons. It's an overall issue because we always we fight in a battle amongst each other. And it's crazy. It's crazy to me because it's not it's not the patient's fault that you want to fight that battle. Yeah. Like and I get very upset about it because the patient is trusting you with their body just because you feel like or just because you want to tell them to go do surgery. Conservative care is always like what you should try first anyway. Sure. But if you want to push them to surgery, give them the reasons why. Don't just tell them, like, OK, you need this, this and this. They deserve to know what's going on with their body, just like anybody else does. And so the more you tell them and the more you dive into it, they can make the educated decision to be like, OK, I do want to do surgery. Sometimes you can't prevent people from getting it. Sometimes that's what they want. And you is. So, yeah, but I know. But I think the other part is preventative care. I'm going to say this word is when you feel those pains and those problems, if you let them go, guess what's going to happen? Surgery. That's when surgery becomes because you keep putting a bandaid. You keep putting a wrap around it, thinking that they're going to get better. And then you have two wraps and then you're icing it and you got the machine. You got the cup. Oh, yeah. Don't. Yeah. My wife, we got one of those copper things that, you know, that it airs itself. Actually, I have a battery operated. My wife thought it was funny and it has settings on it, which she didn't read. Let's just try this. And of course, she puts it on the number one. I mean, it looks like somebody just beat my arm. So but I think in your case and this is what I want to pick up all people to hear is preventative care. Get in when you're having a little backache and problem. Let's get it fixed now. Don't wait and keep wrapping it and putting creams on it. Get it. Take a look at it. And then this gentleman, you know, he is going to tell you, hey, this is what you can. These are the options you have. Yes. And and that's what I love. And I love this. And like like with pickleball, just in general, majority of the stuff that I see is shoulder issues. Like a lot of shoulder issues. And it's so much is so many different things that you can do before having to go down that rabbit hole of thinking about having surgery and stuff like that. Because I've seen shoulder issues and quote unquote, we call it pickleball elbow now. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Sometimes. Yeah. So like you can go you can conservative care is always the best option first. Sure. And I'll try it first. I mean, that doesn't hurt anything. Exactly. And on top of that, it's also like when people think about it, like when they because they start to put finances with it. And so when they think about finances, you end up getting a better result from the conservative care than going to get surgery, because what's going to end up happening with surgery is the whole body is connected. So say, for instance, you get shoulder surgery, not a left shoulder starts to hurt because you're overcompensating so much on that left side. And then after that shoulder where our body is like an X. So you end up having a shoulder on the right. Now your left side of your low back hurt. Now it goes down to your hip. Now it goes down to your knee. So it keeps moving to different situations because of the simple fact of you jump straight to surgery instead of fixing the problem at hand, which was the the muscle probably was just tight. Like, to be honest with you, or say, for instance, a C joint was a little out or something like you can have. I've seen people. It was a woman that came to see me, actually. She came in and because I'm younger, she automatically assumed that I wouldn't be a good a good doc. And so she comes in and she asked me or she was just like, hey, you know, I just want a basic adjustment or whatever is going on because this is at the place I worked at before. Sure. And so I was like, OK. And so I asked what was going on because I do that every time. Like every time you come in, you probably going to be annoyed by me. I'm going to ask every time, like what's going on, because that's a very missed thing. People just be like, get on the table. Like, and that's not a thing for me. I'm going to ask you exactly how it's feeling, because if I need to change up something little just to make a major improvement in you, I will. And so like and I'm good with changing stuff on the fly, too. So like with with this woman, she with this woman, she comes in and she's having breathing problems, shoulder issues. And also like she plays she also plays pickleball. Oh, she's having problems swinging. Everything's hurting on all the time on the right side. I ended up, you know, working on different areas. I've done a little bit of muscle work. Wasn't supposed to because I was working in, but did a little bit of muscle work and then adjusted the area. And this woman jumps off the table. This is this is the moment. This is like I'm freshly kind of out of school. Yeah. And so it kind of scared me. I was like, what did I do? So she jumps off the table and she's like breathing hard. And I'm like, I'm like, are you are you OK? Yeah, I'm like, are you OK? And she was like, she busts out into tears. Wow. And she was like, this is this is this is exactly like what I needed. She says a little sore, but I can breathe. I can swing my arm. That's amazing. And so I'm looking at this and I'm like, I asked, I was like, have nobody else ever checked this area on you? And she was like, no, because they always think it's my hip because of this, this and this. And I was like, well, the body's connected here, here and here. So this made sense for me to do this because I think about sports because I've been playing. Yeah. And so I was like, it makes sense for me to adjust this area and do this and that'll open up every other thing else. And she was just like she she didn't have like she was doing like a pay as she goes. She was just like, I only want to come and see you. What are your days? And that became a normal thing. Like I went at that place that I was at. I went from when my first week being there, I went from seeing I was feeling like 20 patients at the time. Two weeks in, I was seeing 60 and then I saw like 70 and then I saw 80 and it started jumping. I was only there for like two and a half months. But like, wow. Well, like it started jumping consistently. And I also was telling them like, OK, look, you don't need. My problem is I'm like, OK, you don't need fifteen hundred adjustments. Seven or do here like or 88 here or this, you know, I would give them a select number. And I was like, you should feel at least a 60, 70 percent here. And if you feel in a 70 percent here, then we can increase it to 90 to 100. I need to see where your where your body kind of transfers to kind of know what goes on. You don't need to be coming in 24 times like and that's where I kind of that's where that's where it became a thing for me. I was like, OK, I want to get my own so I can be able to tell them that because like. Well, it's hard when you work for somebody because they, you know, they have their business, right? You have to think you do your thing. You want to you want to take the patients and you want them to feel it and you want them to be able to not have pain. So and he runs a really he runs a really, really great practice just in general. And he does really, really well with his patients. It's just our stuff just everybody's everybody's just different. You have a vision. You know what you want. And coming from your background and what has happened to you with the story was incredible that this is what made you who you are. And this is why you're here today with us, because we this shoulder thing. The funny part with pickleball is a lot of movements don't go with our shoulder. Like a lot of the backhand stuff that we do. Yeah, it's not me. We're not made to rip this across our body like that. These overhead, these things that people love, which are fun. I do, too. Smash. Oh, yeah. But when you overextend that shoulder and you're putting all that pressure and you're over hyperextending it, which I'm thinking I'm saying this right. No, you are. You are. You are messing some stuff up. You cramping a bunch of stuff up. Yeah. So you're and it feels so good. But then when you leave there, it doesn't feel good. But you're going to take care of that for our list. So that's what we're excited. So how do we come to you? How do we get? How do we see you? I mean, we know we're seeing you. I mean, he's going to come to private down here. So we. So I have a I have it like a website. I also have like a app, too, that you can like get on. I have it on my Instagram. If you go on W.W.W. Diet Pro Alliance Sports Chiropractic dot com. And then it pulls down everything that you can see. Like it tells you all the stuff that you're going to get with like within 60 minutes session. And on top of that, if you end up calling me or anything like that. I'm very open. Like you call me. We get on the phone because we do a free discovery call before anything. Love it. Just so I can customize it to your needs. You're not coming in to get the same thing somebody else got. Like, that's not a thing. That's not my thing. Everybody's bodies works different and everybody has different type. I love that. So like we customize it based off of what, you know, what your needs is and get you back better. So you don't end up having, like I said, to need me for a long period of time. I want you to be able to want me like. Yeah. Sure. Yeah. Not acute stuff. So like you, you have that all on there. And also I'm starting acupuncture. So like you, you go, go through that whole thing. You click book free discovery and it pulls down everything. Love it. And when we get on a call, we'll talk for 15 minutes. It may go a little longer because I'm a talker. Yeah. He don't talk much. Quiet. Very quiet. I think this is his podcast. You do great. You are. You are a natural. You are a natural. But yeah, this is listeners. You know, you, you want to reach out. Um, he said for any pickleball people that, you know, especially with us, the pickleballers next door, he's going to definitely do some specials for you. Um, again, he's here to help you guys. He's not here. It's not just about the money. This is about his life. He wants to make people's lives better. Yes. And we see that. I mean, when we talked to you, we were talking before the podcast, you, you know, we talk about just what you do for people and it makes you happy and it helps people. So happy. Yeah. And we've seen, we've seen you talking to people there at this grand opening that we're at and you're already in there. Somebody's, Oh, let me take a look. And you're already being a doctor right at the pickleball place. It's so much fun for me because it's bigger than it is. It's bigger than myself. Yeah. And so every, every day I wake up and it's funny cause, um, my girlfriend talks about it all the time. Every day that I wake up, I like look in the mirror. Um, I don't, I don't say it out loud sometimes. I look in the mirror and I literally ask myself like, what is one, like who is one person's life I can change on a day to day basis. That's awesome. And you change more than just one. I appreciate you. And that's, and that's the, that's the biggest part. It's so big. Just meeting him and his smile and who he is. You're going to love him. I mean, we, we fell in love with him the first time we met him. So he is a incredible man. We thank you so much for being on the pick waters next door and you're going to hear a lot more from him. So we're going to, we're actually going to be at a studio doing a live. Um, he's going to give us some tips here. So we're going to see, you're going to get some tips and from Dr. C, right? Dr. C. I like, I like that too, you know, but he's going to, he's going to help our listeners out there and we hope to have a long relationship with him and help you guys out out there. So don't be scared to call in. Um, we'll put them on our website too. We'll put his information there so that you can find him if you miss today or anything. But he is the, he want to see him. If you feel that ache, you feel that pain or that pool, stop wrapping it, stop putting lotion on it. Come see the man. Come see Dr. C. He's going to take care of you. Pro-aligned sports chiropractic. I love your name too. What a name. That is a good name. The shirt's cool. I mean, you're cool. Right? So yeah. That's almost as cool as me. You're not cool. You know what? You're, this is the cool side of the table. I got my own side. Well, we won't call it. We won't tell you what that is. Well, thank you so much. You are such a joy. Yes. Love you and love what you're doing for people. Keep doing it. Keep it. Keep your head up. Keep running hard, which I don't see it. And then we're going to play some pickleball because I got to get some lessons for years. He's a 4.0. I'm still fighting to get to the 4.0. So love it, man. Have a great day. Thank you so much. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Love you. Love you. Have a great day. Thank you so much. No. Thank you. You all have been a blessing. Thank you. I just want to say thank you to a sweet sip for supporting the podcast. 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