Episode 53 Pickleball Kingdom Paddle Battle - Founder/Ace Rodrigues & Pro Contestant/Tiffany Ash

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This is Mike and Krisanna, and we are here with Ace Rodriguez and Tiffany Ashe. Ace is the owner and founder of Pickleball Kingdom. He is the inspiration behind Pickleball Kingdom Paddle Battle, and Tiffany Ashe is one of the contestants. She is from Colorado. It's awesome. It's been a great journey for us. Just an incredible blessing, and the future's bright. Yeah. So kind of tell us how this came about, how you ended up franchising, and tell us about Pickleball Kingdom a little. So this is a real perfect day to talk about this because I call January 9th Genesis Day because January 9th, 2021, I was playing pickleball probably for the 10th time, but it was the 4th time that I had gathered about 20 guys to play, and we're having a great time. And as we're starting to wind up, you know, we're on two converted tennis courts, so now six pickleball courts, and I'm literally, movie moment, I'm leaning on the fence behind one of the middle courts, and I look to my left. Two of the guys that came for me were our brothers. Excuse me. Between them, they have six sons. So I'm looking at these boys, 6 to 14-ish, playing, great time. Far court, five women doing some kind of rotational thing, great time. Cross court, three couples doing their own round robin, great time. Family of their four kids, great time. Two courts for my guys, 20 to 50-something, great time. And I'm like, there's something about this. When I first started playing, I'm like, I'll try this old man sport, this retired thing, right? It's sort of the cousin of shuffleboard. And I'm like, that's not my experience. It's all body types, all ages, all ethnicities. There's something going on. But now I knew the downside, can't reserve a court, it's hot, it's cold, the wind. I never thought of Arizona as windy until I started playing pickleball, then I felt like, where's these gale force winds coming from all of a sudden? And the waiting killed me. And so literally, as guys are leaving, I just started saying, man, this would be better indoors. You could have reservations, all these problems I just mentioned go away. The big idea wasn't the idea. 10,000 other people had that thought before I did. The big idea was the execution of the idea, so to have that plan. Secondly, to have the resources to pull off that plan. And then maybe lastly, the guts to pull the trigger, because anything times 40,000 square feet becomes a monstrous number. Very expensive. No doubt. So that story I just told you literally happened January 9th today, five years ago. So a year and four months later, so May 2nd, January 2022, we opened up our Chandler Club. A year after that, so day one on January 9th, I knew if I opened an indoor court and branded it the right way, put together the right systems and documented it, this is a franchise play. And if you built the right system and the right brand, there's no reason this doesn't travel and this doesn't go throughout the world and become an international play. So from the jump, it was going to be that. And a year after we opened Chandler, just a year and a month, we started franchising. Year after that, we've had about 300 sold locations. Wow. That's amazing. Wow. Thank you, Jesus. Here we are, 30 plus clubs opened. We've got another 20 in the next two or three months that are opening. We'll be at over 100 this time next year, 400 in total coming. Just got a deal in India, which is the most populated country in the world. A couple of other countries I can't talk about yet because we haven't signed, but we're close. So it's just been a crazy ride, but a lot of fun. Crazy and fun, yeah. Just from jumping on a court, playing, seeing all this fun and going this old man's sport turned into this dream. Absolutely. So I say it's a Genesis day because God threw this lightning bolt into my head that landed in my heart. And I've been on fire ever since. So again, quite the adventure. Wow. Well, so you'll have 300 sold as of right now, approximately, right? 400. 400. Wow. Okay. And so how many a year do you usually open? Are you able to open? Well, so we started selling about a year and a half or so ago. And it took almost a year to get the first ones open just because of that inertia. We're now opening somewhere between two to, we're going to start ramping up, probably four a month. So again, the numbers are escalating. You know what's great, too, is all this space that's been dead out there that we need to find things to put in it. And what a great thing to put pickleball in it, right? I mean, for years I drove around. I was in construction for 40 years and just used to see these big warehouses or big companies that have now went online and no longer selling. They're using the online system than having a big brick and mortar. But what a great thing to put these pickleball courts up. Yeah, well said, Mike. You know, I think it's reimagining real estate space and turning things into experiential places. And that's happening more and more, not just in pickleball, but with everything else, right? I think COVID, as horrible as that was, was the sort of gas on the fire for a lot of things. This included for pickleball and just the yearning for community. I know I didn't realize how much I needed people prior to COVID. It's always like, I just want to get away. I just want to hang out by myself, meaning me and my wife. But after COVID, it's just like, hey, let's get together. Let's hang out. Where can we go? And so I think it just made everybody realize as human beings, we need other human beings. And so I think that's what really makes the difference. I mean, from COVID really just separated us. And now we're bringing pickleballs, bringing us back. I mean, we go to courts. I mean, here in Colorado, we have over 25 indoor courts here. And we're waiting for you. We're waiting to get yours here. We're hoping for that, Tiffany. We probably have the answer on this call. So what makes you guys different than other courts? You know, I would say what differentiates us from other clubs would maybe this sentence. I think, and I don't mean this in any condescending way, but as I see it, most other clubs are building a business. And rightfully so. I'm a business guy. But with Pickleball Kingdom, I feel like we have and we're continuing to build a brand. And it's much more than just pickleball, you know, from, first of all, the name, then the colors. You walk into our club. You're welcomed with a welcome to the kingdom. And it's just everything we do is built around community. All are here in our corporate office that we call the clubhouse. All of our employees, their email signature sign-off is building community. So we really embrace that. And we have a laser focus on being ambassadors of not just our brand but of the sport. We're just such advocates that pickleball, life is better with pickleball. Pickleball is better for you physically, socially, and spiritually, whatever that means to you. And those are two of our five value statements that we built this company on. I love it too. And then think about this. What sport can you do that you can have a six-year-old and a 90-year-old at the same time? And your family, you can play as a family sport. I mean, there's just no other sport in the world that you can do this. Absolutely. And really, we got two men and two women on this call. The difference between a male and female on the court are pretty negligible for the most part. No active sport can you truly say that. My wife and I both are former Division I athletes. A million years ago, I was a quarterback at the University of Hawaii. She ran cross country for them. We've been married now in two months. Excuse me, we'll make 34 years. Wow, congratulations. Thank you. Thank you. Love of my life. So for 28 of those years, we never played sports together. Because the things I want to do, she doesn't want me whipping a ball at her. And she wants to go for a run. And my knees and back are jacked up from football. So there's nothing for us to do together in that way until pickleball. And so, yeah, it's a great equalizer for sure. Well, and it brings the grandkids together, the grandfather. It brings the son and daughter. It brings the son and daughter and son and mother and father. And it just doesn't stop. It's incredible. Now, when you say players on here, you haven't played with Tiffany. Because she scares me. She's a good player. But that's what's neat with it. It's an equalizer. It doesn't matter how big, how old. You don't have to be. It's the sport. I play a little bit different. But you can level up at any age. And it doesn't matter what gender you are. Sure. Well, let me tell you real quick how I got the idea for the show. Yeah, that's great. To jump in here and kind of tell us the story. So I love listening to podcasts. And so congratulations on what you guys are doing. And I'm just always listening to something. It's number one, it's entertainment. And then number two, it's learning. And I think we can all get better at whatever we want to get better at. And so I'm listening to this one interview. And this lady, can't remember her name. She's a founder of a cosmetics company. And I'm just going to be honest. My interest in cosmetics is whatever is less than zero. That's where my interest in that is. Just because I'm a guy. But I'm just listening to her story. And she talked about writing this one-off book that got her this kind of notoriety in this way that came back to her business. And I'm just listening to that. And I'm saying, oh, yeah, I get it. I saw what she did there. That's like what Dana White did with the UFC with the show, The Ultimate Fighter. And so I just, that whole stream of consciousness immediately went to, someone needs to do that for Pickleball. Which then went to the little voice in my head said, hey, dummy. That someone's you. You need to do that. So literally, okay, what would that look like? Well, we get people, men and women compete. At the end of it, instead of a UFC contract or American Idol record deal, they want to play under the pro circuit. We can sponsor them. All right. But I was just like, doggone it. I love the idea of voting because that gets people involved. I want him to win her. I don't like this guy. I'm going to vote for these other people. That's part of the fun of it. Who you're cheering for. And frankly, sometimes who you're cheering against. And so you can't vote on the game that's being played. Because whoever won, won. You can't vote for the loser and the loser wins, right? So how can we do that? And well, we're in the Pickleball business. And there's a lot of people, I think, and now that it's been confirmed, that are like me that want their real sport to be the business of Pickleball. And I thought, well, that's what we can do. We can shepherd them into that. We'll give away two franchises and thus the voting aspect. So maybe, again, I'd like to pull one of our contestants. And we're so impressed with her. I'll tell you, for Colorado, she represented herself and the state so well. But, Tiffany, maybe you can share with the audience why you applied to the show to begin with. Yeah, thanks. And thanks for having me on this. This is my first time on their podcast. Wonderful. Yeah, well, there's like a few things. First of all, I was just thinking what a great experience, like once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to be able to go on like a Pickleball show, season one. That was really enticing. And then, you know, a few years ago, I started getting into tournaments, but they're expensive. And I, like, wanted to compete, but, you know, with Ace coming out with this big prize for, like, a pro sponsorship, I was like, this would be great. I can compete for this, try to win, like, a year sponsorship so I could go travel for more tournaments and also just compete against other players rather than just doing, like, the local tournaments in Colorado. So it would be really cool to represent, you know, Pickleball Kingdom and travel around. And then they said that they were wanting 16 players, so I thought it would be really fun just to join the show and play against different people because we always play against the same group, you know, in Colorado. It's a small pool of people. So I thought it would be fun to meet new players and meet them from all over the country and just get this really, yeah, cool once-in-a-lifetime opportunity. So it was awesome. I was a little hesitant to apply at first. I applied literally, like, the day before the end, like the final deadline to apply. But I was like, I should do this, take the risk, and see what happens. So, yeah, it all worked out. It was great. So was it a casting call kind of thing, or how did that work? Yeah, so I think, Ace, you guys posted it. It was, like, being posted all over. Someone sent it to me through Instagram. There was, like, an ad, and it asked for a video that we had to answer some questions and send in live video of us answering them and then just, like, talking about ourselves and what we wanted out of the show and what we would do with a franchise. And, yeah, so, and then it all started from there. Were you excited when they did call you, they contacted you? Oh, my gosh, Ace, I remember this. So I think I had the weirdest reaction because I was getting prepared for a Zoom call, like, interview. I thought it was just the next step in the process of them, you know, screening players to see who they wanted to pick. And they picked me, like, right away. And I was in my classroom. My students were at PE. So I had, like, a half an hour break to do this interview. But then they were like, you're on the show. And I just remember being really shocked. Like, I was really excited, but then I was like, I need to tell my principal. I need to make subplans. I'm going to have to figure out how to take off, like, a full week of school. So I think I was just very excited. But I also needed to figure out, like, the logistics of it. But I knew I wanted to go on. So it was, yeah, it was very exciting to get the acceptance call. Well, what a great person to do. We know you quite a bit. You know, we watch you play. And you're just a great person all over. We see you all. You play everywhere. You're everywhere. Thanks. Yeah, no, it was great. And, you know, all the 15 other players were awesome. It was really fun. So you guys all got along. There wasn't a lot of drama? Maybe I'm not supposed to share that. I don't know. I'll jump into that. I'll tell you, Christana, there was quite a bit of drama. There's a ton of laughing, a ton of crying. Yeah. There's a lot of finger pointing. And you kind of cheated. You called people. You, you know, all this type of stuff. But, frankly, everything you want in a show. Yeah, you have to have all that, right? So did you guys, did you always have the same partner? Or did you switch partners? Or is that something that you can't tell yet? Yeah, I'll tell you this. There's just a lot of changes. And you hear on the trailer twice the same thing I made. And everything changes again. Because as soon as they thought, okay, and, you know, I'm sure Tiff will agree to that. Okay, I see what they're doing. I see what this is. It's sort of like the deck got reshuffled again. And then, oh, I see how it is. And then the deck gets reshuffled again. So we definitely had actual pickleball games. And then we had different skill challenges, different things. And then, frankly, the big challenge was having them play in pairs, but ultimately competing as individuals. We spent hours upon hours upon hours figuring out how do we reward that, how do we judge that. And I'll tell you, that was a huge hurdle to get over. I believe we accomplished it. I'm not going to say how we did it, because that is part of the show when it gets revealed. But it's fun to see what happens. And it was, number one, grueling on the contestants. So hats off to Tiff and the other 15, because it was 10- to 12-hour days. And I was exhausted at the end of each day. And I'm sitting there and talking to them. I'm not on the court running around playing 80 games a day. But they were champions for sure. Well, it has to be difficult, too, with people you've never played with. You don't know. I mean, I know when I play at an upper level, and you walk on a court with somebody, it takes a little bit to start building that relationship. And then when you're in a competition, it even has to have a little bit more effect on you, like thinking, well, this person is actually competing with me, but they're my partner. No doubt. And I will tell you what you just said, Mike, kind of plays. It does bleed into the show a little bit, because there's a ton of strategy for the players. In terms of who they're playing with, there's some subjectivity that they had of putting that together. So again, you'll see how that played out. But that's where people started forming. You did better. Were you holding back? And that screwed me. There's some of that going on. So you'll see what happens. I love it. This is going to be great. Yeah, we're excited. I can't wait. I cannot wait. This is going to be just incredible to watch. So what level did you have to be at to be able to be in this? Yeah. So when Tiff talked about what she sent in, the one thing she didn't mention is they also had to send in some game footage. So we sort of put out there, we said you had to be sort of an elite high-level player, 4.0 plus. You know how that works, right? Because a lot of that before Duper was really just self-rating. So sometimes people thought they were a lot better or they would be sandbagging. So we want to see actual game footage to sort of vet them. So what we did, I'll tell you, I can't remember the number off the top of my head, but it was somewhere literally between 700 to 900 contestants applications we received. So just going through that was daunting. So we started, bluntly, with the game footage. We would just watch for less than a minute, and if they didn't seem like an elite player, delete it. We didn't even see it. That's awesome for Tiffany. Just because you have to cross a bar. Then above the bar, now we started looking at some personalities, just different things. We had some things that we were trying to accomplish with that, with the mix, but they had to be, you know, at a level that would be worthy of the show and what we're trying to do. Well, I can tell you, we do a lot of podcasts here in Colorado, and we watch Tiffany play quite often, and she brings a crowd. Like you, you have a whole crowd around her court. So I can't imagine what it was like for you out there, you know, but here she is just a great player and fun, laughing. Look at her smile now. She's got a beautiful smile, beautiful person. Thanks. I'm probably the one that's always laughing. I think there are other players that were doing the pointing. We'll see. Yeah. I'll just throw this. I will let this cat out of the bag a little bit, you know, because all of them were great players. Or, again, they wouldn't have been on the show. I think what separated Tip was what you just said, Mike. It was who she was off the court, that she did bring that positive energy. You know, certain players were playing the game, and I told all the players, say anything you want, do anything you want, be whoever you want to be. Just know we're filming it, and we can use it. So just know that. So people, you know, some people wanted to do that, and, again, you'll see that. But Tip, her heart, maybe above all things, came across, and I think the other players acknowledged and recognized that too. Yeah. She'll go on a court with anybody and help them, and just like I said, she's a great person. So now has the contestants been picked on who's getting the franchise? I can't remember if I asked you that. Or is that going to be in the finale? Yeah, yeah. So the way that works, Christana, is there's four life-changing prizes that we're awarding, right? Two pro sponsorships for a year that we're, again, financially backing them to do that, and then two franchises. So what I told the players, I said, look, you have your futures in your hands because whatever you do on the court is going to move you forward or eliminate you. Fair play. We're not judging that. It's just that, whatever they do. So we already know, and I'll tell you, Tiff already knows who the male and female is. She also signed an NDA. So no matter how much you beg her, she's not going to tell you. Lips are sealed. We can't bargain with her. I will tell you also this. Nobody knows who won the franchise, including me, because that's the vote. Child funds. Exactly. So next week, Wednesday, I believe it's the 14th off the top of my head. I think the 14th. I saw that. So 6 o'clock Mountain Standard Time. I believe that's 8 p.m. Eastern. The first week we're dropping the first two episodes. So Episode 1 and 2 will drop immediately, and then people can vote through Sunday. And then the next week, Episode 3 drops, and then the cadence is one a week from there. And so what we filmed, we crowned the king and queen who are getting the pro sponsorships on Episode 8. And our final episode will be Episode 9. And 9 will be. . . So we film all eight of those. That's all in the can, edited, ready to go. We haven't filmed Episode 9 yet, because that's going to be that scramble at the end because we're going to tabulate the cumulative votes for the franchise, and then that will be announced on Episode 9. And where do we go to see the episodes? It's going to be on YouTube. So my plan was always, hey, I want to release this for free, get a big audience, and hopefully get a bidding war for Season 2 and beyond of where we can go with that. Once we announced the show and we started getting the contestants and we got some viral buzz from that, we had some proxies reach out from pretty much every big-name platform you can think of. So I'm not going to mention their names, but any name you can think of, we probably had some type of interaction. And it just didn't. . . Some of them wanted to put a paywall in front of it. Others want to change the show. And I said, you know, I don't think they fully understand what Pickleball is. We don't need to put green wigs on or, you know, try to do different things to make it funnier. It is what it is, and I think people want to see that. People want to see real people, nothing different. And that's what makes Pickleball so special is it doesn't matter who you are, how big, how little, how tall. It doesn't matter. And it takes you out there and you're in an even playing field with a ball and a paddle. Yeah. So then I just went back to my original idea and premise. We're just going to release it on YouTube that's the most accessible to everybody because you don't need any kind of cable subscription or monthly subscription to a platform. And I'm excited about it. You know, we're putting it out into the wild. Again, Tiff was there, and I'll say this, we truly captured lightning in a bottle. I mean, if you're watching, again, I mentioned I played football. If we're watching a football movie on TV or in the theaters, what's going to happen? I promise you it's going to end with fourth and one on the one-yard line, right? Three seconds left. It's like, of course, every movie ends that way. I'm just going to say it in terms of the pro contract, the equivalent of that happened, and it happened organically. You're going to see how the games play. There's no manipulation again. Tiff and all the players were there. There is nothing we did aside from set up games, set up the rules, and whatever happens on the court happens on the court. We could not have scripted it any better. So I'm just so excited for the public to see that and to react to that. Oh, we've been telling everybody already because we're excited. We can't wait for the first one. I'm excited. I went through it, but I'm still excited to watch it. Every day was so intense, intense battles and playing every day. It was just like a lot on the line, so it'll be good. Yeah, and you won't know if you get the franchise, right? It's all voting. That's all voting, so you have to go vote for me. Yeah, of course. Sorry, other players. Well, so what's involved for next year? Are you going to change it up, like maybe get the people that aren't so good and you get them better? We got all kinds of ideas. So there's so many offshoots of this. There's the idea of Pickleball Paddle Battle spouses. A married couple eating together. Pickleball Paddle Battle siblings. You got to be a blood brother and sister. Pickleball Paddle Battle seniors. Pickleball Paddle Battle juniors. And for us, because we're a franchise, we're expanding throughout the world. Pickleball Paddle Battle India. Pickleball Paddle Battle Australia, Canada, etc. And then a Pickleball Paddle Battle World Championship. And then my back pocket, Pickleball Paddle Battle celebrities. Because celebrities more and more are playing. Now, they're not going to be competing for a contract or a franchise, but they're going to be representing whatever charity they want to represent. And we'll write a check to that charity if they win. So there's all of that on the docket. The future is bright, but right now we're sort of all in on the present, which is season one. Well, and you're bringing the world together on a different way of looking at Pickleball. Some of us just play rec, and that's what we tell people on our podcast. You live vicariously through us, and you're doing the same thing. You're giving the world like, wow, there's more than just coming to a court and hitting a ball. No doubt. And then on top of that, Mike, there's certain people, just to be blunt, who maybe aren't into Pickleball by their choice or not by their choice. Maybe they just have some disability or can't physically get out there. This is still something they can enjoy and see a world they're not a part of. Growing up in Hawaii, racing, auto racing, just wasn't a part of my life. I loved all sports, but not that. You can pay me to go to a race. And then this show on, I believe, Netflix came out, Drive to Survive, the F1 thing. And it came popping up, and I'm like, I'm not interested. And then one day I kind of read it, and it said something about behind the scenes, strategy, these are computers on rockets. And I thought, I'll watch five minutes of it and then probably jump out. I binge watched the whole season that weekend, and now I'm a huge F1 fan. But that show kind of showed me a world I just wasn't aware of, and it taught me that. I believe and I hope we do that for some people through this show and bring in people, again, who maybe aren't touching the pickleball world. Tiff got to know Clayton Eckhart, our host. Great guy. He was The Bachelor a handful of seasons ago. Not the one of 30 guys. He was the one guy that 30 women were there trying to connect with. And so I think we'll get a lot of his kind of followers who may or may not be into pickleball kind of see this sport that everyone's getting so obsessed with that they don't understand. Hopefully they'll understand after they see this. If they're not in it, they'll probably be in it after they watch it. That's what we tell people. Sorry, once you start this, you're in. You're not getting out. So, Tiffany, you excited? I mean, this is coming. You worked and went through all this, and now it's here. Yeah. No, I'm very excited. I'm nervous to see. I know we went through it all, but it'll just be fun to watch, just seeing all the challenges. Some stuff we weren't able to watch during the episode, so it'll be good to see what other competitors were doing. Yeah, it'll be really fun to watch with friends too. My family is all excited to watch, so it should be really good. You're a star. And you're a star in our eyes anyway. But, I mean, how neat. It just put you in another whole level. Yeah. Yeah, it was a really cool experience. Well, we're so excited. I mean, we've been telling people all over that we've already been announcing it and talking about it because we're excited. And thank you for putting it on YouTube because, I mean, it allows everybody, like you said, to be involved. I can see this being on a major platform here really quick. Mike, I hope so. You know, that's the maybe season two plan and beyond. But to Tiff's point, you know, that even though she was there, she's not sure what it's going to look like. There's a whole separate part of that, Tiff, because if you remember, one of the things we did, we had all our contestants, we required them to do a video diary every day. So they had to do a selfie video and say whatever you want, talk about whatever you want. And as you can imagine, sometimes it's, man, today was a great day. I'm killing it. This is great. You know, I'm excited. A lot of times it's with tears. I think I'm out. You know, I don't know if I'm the worst one here. And just all these emotions. And so that's something I didn't even see during the show because it was full blast, you know, all this type of stuff. And after we watched and we got a lot of that in the show, some of the rawest emotions were those sort of video diaries from these players. So that's completely. Yeah, they're going to see that. I completely forgot about the diaries. So, yeah, that is because, you know, I did my own, but yeah, I had no idea what anyone else was. No player solving. Yeah. We want to see that. We want to see what people's really emotions are. And especially when you're putting at this level and under this kind of pressure, I can't imagine what it's like. I know being in a high level tournament, but this takes up even one more step above that, you know? Yeah. The pressure, Mike, from my standpoint, right. As the creator and producer of the show, we were, we were turning the vice to make it more pressure, but rightfully so. These were life changing prizes. So, you know, you don't accidentally win the Super Bowl, right? So in the same way, it was a grind physically, mentally, emotionally, all that stuff. You lose a game. You got to be able to pick yourself up and charge because you don't want to do that slippery slope downhill. That's awesome. Where was this at? Where did this all take place? At our Chandler club. So we got some footage from the hotel that all the players stayed at, but the high majority is that our Chandler club and future, it'll never be filmed there again. The thought was always future episodes will be at other pickleball kingdoms. So I already got our franchisees kind of jostling for a position like ace. Come on. It'll show so well. So we're excited about putting that on the map. And when we air the show, we actually have some QR codes and people to, to start throwing their hat in the ring. You know, if you want to be considered for season two and kind of be on our list as we start putting that together, basically a sign up here, you know, so people will have that opportunity. Yeah. I'm looking forward. I, you know, I've been thinking to myself, don't you? Mike. No, I think he should do the spouse one. That would be really fun and entertaining to watch. Oh yeah. Yeah. You know, we aren't spouses, right? No, I know that just in general. I think that would be a great like. Yeah. I don't know. We probably leave divorce. It'll bring a whole different level of drama for that. We love it when we see couples go into play and it's like, they're ready to go. And what a great day. And when they're leaving, they're like, they're not talking. It's, it's the fun of it. Right. So, but I think what you're doing, this is incredible. I love where you're taking it to the whole world. I mean, I mean, this is, this is great fun. Yeah. Ace. I have a question for you. Do you think you'd ever do a reunion episode? Oh, good question. That that's a very good question to believe it or not. We kick that around. So I, I really think it's going to depend. So the answer is yes, we thought about it, but there's so many different moving parts. I think it's really going to depend on sort of what their reaction to the show is. So again, we, we were in a bubble, right? We all created this world for a week. And did this. And it took a while now to the editing process is just mind-numbing, you know, the time and energy and effort. That takes. And so now we're here to release it. So I think it's going to be the reaction to it, the public demand for what's next, you know, do they want more of this and these personalities or is the demand that was awesome? What else do you got? Right. What's next one. So, so a big, it depends. Yeah. Yep. Yeah. That would be a neat show. I liked where she was going that you have the couches. And you ever watch any of those other shows and can sit around the couch and be like, you know, I don't like you. It'd be kind of fun for the voting. When the voting, when you present the voting, that'd be kind of an interesting thing. Yeah. Yeah. Because you have us on and I appreciate again, the invite to be on here. I will tell you this, that we haven't really announced it in between episodes, because each episode is different. And so we're going to have a little bit of a, But certainly, but certainly not. We're going to have a little bit of a, we're going to have a little bit of a dance that we haven't really announced that in between episodes, because each episode has different elements, different things happen. Different conflicts arise, different people step up all that kind of. What we're planning on doing is again, they drop every Wednesday in between those times we will have sort of. Many. I don't know if I want to say reunions, but certain people on to talk about that. This event happened and Hey, what were you thinking when that happened? When. She said this, how did you feel? And, you know, just sometimes the things that the audience doesn't see on camera, but they know something went on. We plan on having some of that. So be, be stay tuned to all of our social media handles to, to watch your clips when you were putting out, like how it was going. And that was pretty fascinating. The energy and the people. And wow. So I can't wait. I just, I wish it could be Wednesday. I wonder I'm ready to watch. The 14th. That is next Wednesday. Yeah. Well, is there anything else that you guys would want to share? Jeff. No, just that I'm excited. I hope everyone listening to this goes and watches and we'll, we'll be playing it at relish. So yeah, just hop on YouTube and vote. We've got a couple other places. We're going to talk to you about putting this on. So we're going to see if we can get this all over at all the other clubs playing. Yeah. Yeah. Cause I liked that part as us coming as a community, even if we're all different clubs, we share this adventure. Yeah. It's really fun to be able to represent the state too. So like everyone, you know, ACE chose people from all over the country. So it is pretty cool to represent Colorado and kind of have like people behind me watching. So yeah. It'll be really fun. We were excited. We were like, oh my gosh, it's awesome. We know. Yeah. I'm not telling you guys anything. You don't know, but TIFF again, represented herself and your state extremely well to answer your question. Chris Anna. Yeah. I would say this. What I would so strongly recommend people to watch. Cause I think number one, you're going to be entertained. And number two, you're going to see some fascinating personalities and then you're going to see pickleball in a way you never did. We made up literally so many things that have never been done because it never had to be done. So I think it's going to be kind of a cool reveal for a lot of that. But the last thing to that is we signed off on every show, please make someone's dream come true. So I can't encourage the audience enough to vote, you know? So at the end of this, it literally will take you 30 seconds, you know, to get on this URL and say, yeah, TIFF or whoever you want. We're going to give you five votes each episode for each gender. Cause again, we've got a male and female winner. So you can vote five times for a woman. It could be TIFF five times or TIFF two times and one, one, one, however you want and same on the men's side. So I just strongly encourage people to do that. Cause you're going to move the needle. You're going to make, you're going to decide who's going to have that opportunity. That's awesome. And that's per episode you'll have five. Correct. Correct. Exactly. Right. Okay. Per gender, male and female. Okay. And then do you, um, are they, is there a timeframe after they watched that they have so much time to vote? Correct. Episode. Yes. I'm pretty sure. So I'm not a hundred percent sure, but when the card comes up, it'll say, I know we bounced around and said from Wednesday to Sunday, or it might be the full week, but it's somewhere between there. But at the end of the episode, when the instructions come on, it'll say what the timeframe is. So it is either till that Sunday or it'll be till like the day before the next episode, but it'll specifically call that out. Nice. I just think this is incredible. And you're, you're in a life changing situation for somebody to have a club, you know, cause clubs are, I mean, it's a lot of money and time to go into putting an opening a club, which as you know, but like I said, you're going to change somebody's life, a couple of people's lives. For sure. If I could just put one thing out there. So my social media handle is, uh, Ace Rod for Ace Rodriguez. So Ace R O D P K for pick a ball kingdom. And my Instagram little bio, I just start with I'm the most blessed man on the planet. Uh, you know, my whole life, my whole journey, thank you Jesus for everything. And so as this has happened for me and this has been life changing in every way, it's been by far, the hardest thing I've ever done this pickleball journey and by far the most rewarding, and I'm so grateful for it. So as we got there, I just turned around and said, I need to pass that forward. How can we bless people on their talent level to play? How can we help them achieve that dream? And I just know for me, sort of the washed up athlete, my sport is the business of it. Well, how can I help some people achieve that too? So therefore the four life changing awards. Thank you so much. Good one. Like you do changing the world and making this a better place. You know, that what we love about our podcast and we get to meet great people. I can't say enough. It was the best thing I ever did. And when we started a podcast, we were like, I don't know. Are we really doing the right thing after meeting all these great people and meetings and high fives and laughing and raising money for charities. And I'm so blessed. I'm so blessed to be here and so blessed to meet you guys and get to know you. Thank you. I'm so grateful too, for the people I've met and like, yeah, meeting ACE and then the 15 other contestants. It was, it's awesome. Pickleball has brought me so many people and community and it's just been, yeah, you can play with everybody, all different backgrounds. It's great. So I'm yeah. Very appreciative. Thanks ACE. You're welcome. The times and, and what, and where people can find this, this is what we can get out there for Wednesday. I know it said YouTube, but is there any channel or anything that, that way we can get them looking for it for Wednesday? Yes. It's a pickleball kingdom paddle battle on YouTube. Again, it drops eight o'clock Easter on Wednesday, the 14th first two episodes, and then one episode each Wednesday thereafter. I love it. I can't wait. I'm going to be, I'm going to be right to my screen. My wife's like, what are you doing? So we thank you guys so much for being on the pig Lars next door. We'd like to follow up after all this. I'd love to kind of follow up with you and just see how, you know, where it's going next and how you felt like, you know, the response was, I think it's going to be, your phone's going to ring off the hook. I mean, your, your following is going to be just crazy. That's great. Thanks guys. Thank you. Thank you so much. Have a great day. Have a great day. Bye. Tired of the same old, same old. Discover a sweet sip, nano CBD, sparkling sodas. 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